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Attachment 1-3TOWN OF LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REPORT Meeting Date: May 11, 2016 PREPARED BY: Mami F. Moseley, Associate Planner MMoscley@losgatosca.gov APPLICATION NO.: Architecture and Site Application S-15-077 ITEM NO: 2 LOCATION: 19 Highland Avenue (north side of Highland Avenue just east of 15 Highland Avenue) APPLICANT/ PROPERTY OWNER: Ed Pearson CONTACT PERSON: Ed Pearson APPELLANT: Badame, Robert s, Smullen, and Spalding Families APPLICATION SUMMARY: Consider an appeal of a decision of the Development Review Committee approving an Architecture and Site application to construct a new single-family residence and remove large protected trees on property zoned HR-2 Y2. APN 529-37-033 REMARKS: Staff, the applicant, and the appellant request the item be continued to the May 25, 20 I 6 meeting to provide additional time to prepare materials. Prepared by: Mami Moseley, AICP Associate Planner JP:MM:cg Community Development Directo r cc: Ed Pearson, 239 Thurston Street, Los Gatos, CA 95030 Lisa Robert s, 78 Alpine A venue, Los Gato s, CA 95030 Theresa Spalding, 15 Highland Avenue, Lo s Gatos, CA 95030 Dede Smullen, 2 5 Highland A venue, Lo s Gatos, CA 95030 Anthony Badame, I Highland A venue, Los Gatos , CA 95030 N:\DEV\PC REPORTS\2 0 16\Highland-19-appeai-Cont.doc ATTACHMENT 1 TOWN OF LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REPORT Meeting Date: May 11, 2016 PREPARED BY: Mami F. Moseley, Associate Planner MMoselev@l os ga tosca .go v APPLICATION NO.: Architecture and Site Application S-15-077 ITEM NO: 2 DESK ITEM LOCATION: 19 Highland A venue (north side of Highland A venue just east of 15 Highland Avenue) APPLICANT/ PROPERTY OWNER: Ed Pearson CONTACT PERSON: Ed Pearson APPELLANT: Badame, Roberts, Smullen, and Spalding Families APPLICATION SUMMARY: Consider an appeal of a decision of the Development Review Committee approving an Architecture and Site application to construct a new single-family residence and remove large protected trees on property zoned HR-2 ~-APN 529-37-033 EXHIBITS: Received with this Desk Item Report: 1. Em ails from appellants, received May 11 , 2016 REMARKS: Staff received the attached correspondence from three of the four appellants (Exhibit 1 ). Two of the four appellants cannot attend the recommended May 25, 2016 meeting date. Staff requested all of the appellants ' availability for the June 8, 2016 Planning Commission meeting, and received only one response which indicated she could make either date. The applicant has secured the attendance of six professionals associated with the project for the May 25, 2016 meeting. The applicant's architect is unavailable for the June 8, 2016 Planning Commission meeting and requests that the Commission not continue the application beyond the May 25, 2016 meeting date. Staff will be available to answer questions regarding the continuance date. ATTACHMENT 2 Planning Commission Staff Report -Page 2 19 Highland A venue/S-15-077 May 11,2016 Prepared by: Mami Moseley, AICP Associate Planner JP:MM:cg N :\DEV \PC REPORTS \2 0 16\High1and-19-appeai-Cont-DESK.doc pproved by: Joel Paulson Community Development Director Marni Moseley From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: Dorothea Smullen <dorothea.smullen@gmail.com > Wednesday, May 11 , 2016 7:19 AM Marni Moseley Anthony Badame; Lisa Roberts; teresaspalding@hotmail.com Re: Notice of Appeal I did not receive a response to this email sent over a week ago but did receive a new notice in the mail that the meeting was scheduled for May 25th. It is not possible for the appellants to be at this meeting. We need for you to reschedule for a subsequent meeting. I believe it is customary to consult with an appellant before noticing a meeting. Please check back with me before re-scheduling this so that we can make sure we are able to attend. Also we were told that the new biologic al report would be available on Monday. Please forward this to me. Yours, Dede 408-679-0254 (Mobile) On May 2 , 2016, at 10:52 AM, Dorothea Smullen <dorothea.smullen@ gmail.com> wrote: You mentioned that the notice of appeal had already been posted. We did not receive any notice. When were they mailed? Can you send me a copy? Thank you Yours, Dede 408-679-0254 (Mobile) E XBl Bl T 1 1 Marni Moseley From: Sent: To : Cc: Lisa Roberts < lroberts@rehonroberts.com > Wednesday, May 11, 2016 8:35 AM Marni Moseley; Dorothea Smullen Subject: Anthony Badame; teresaspalding@hotmail.com RE: Notice of Appeal I am not able to make the new date either and also request that it be changed. Thank you, lisa Roberts From: Marni Moseley [mailto:MMoseley@losgatosca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 8:24 AM To: Dorothea Smullen CC: Anthony Badame; Lisa Roberts; teresaspaldinq@hotmail.com Subject: Re : Notice of Appeal Sorry Dede, I did not receive the first email. We spoke about the dates when we met almost 2 weeks ago. It was my impression that you spoke for the group, and that you personally might have a conflict with the date but could potentially have a conflict with any regular planning commission date due to your position in Saratoga. The biological report was just finalized and I will forward it to you when I'm in the office. Marni Sent from my iPhone On May 11,2016, at 7 :19AM, Dorothea Smullen <dorothea.smullen@ gmail.com> wrote: I did not receive a response to this email sent over a week ago but did receive a new notice in the mail that the meeting was scheduled for May 25th. It is not possible for the appellants to be at this meeting. We need for you to reschedule for a subsequent meeting. I believe it is customary to consult with an appellant before noticing a meeting. Please check back with me before re- scheduling this so that we can make sure we are able to attend. Also we were told that the new biological report would be available on Monday. Please forward this to me. Yours , Dede 408-679-0254 (Mobile) On May 2, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Dorothea Smullen <dorothea.smullen@ gmail.com> wrote: You mentioned that the notice of appeal had already been posted. We did not receive any notice. When were they mailed ? Can you send me a copy? Thank you Yours, Dede 408-679-0254 (Mobile) 1 Marni Moseley From: Sent: To: Cc: Teresa Spalding <teresaspalding@hotmail.com > Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:56 AM Marni Moseley Subject: Lisa Roberts; Dorothea Smullen; Anthony Badame Re : Notice of Appeal I can do either date .... just let me know what date gets set. Thanks everyone Teresa Spalding 415-515-5106 On May 11 ,2016, at 10 :26 AM, Marni Moseley <MMoseley@ losgatosca.go v> wrote: I need to talk w ith Ed, but if the Comm iss ion we re to continue it to June 81h in stead of May 25 1h would that work ? I need to know by 11 AM in order to prepare a desk item for tonight's meeting . --------·--------- From: Lisa Roberts [mailto:lroberts@rehonroberts.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 8:35 AM To: Marni Moseley; Dorothea Smullen Cc: Anthony Badame; teresaspaldinq @hotmail.com Subject: RE: Notice of Appeal I am not able to ma ke the new date either and al so reque st that it be chang ed. Tha nk yo u, Li sa Roberts From: Marni Moseley [mailto :MMoseley @losgatosca .gov] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 8:24AM To: Dorothea Smullen Cc: Anthony Badame; Lisa Roberts; teresaspalding@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Notice of Appeal Sorry Dede, I did not receive the first email. We spoke about the dates when we met almost 2 weeks ago. It was my impression that you spoke for the group, and that you personally might have a conflict with the date but could potentially have a conflict with any regular planning commission date due to your position in Saratoga. The biological report was just finali zed and I will forward it to you when I'm in the office. Mami Sent from my iPhone On May 11 ,2016, at 7:19AM, Dorothea Smullen <dorothea.smullen@ gm ail.co m> wrote: 1 I did not receive a response to this email sent over a week ago but did receive a new notice in the mail that the meeting was scheduled for May 25th. It is not possible for the appellants to be at this meeting. We need for you to reschedule for a subsequent meeting. I believe it is customary to consult with an appellant before noticing a meeting. Please check back with me before re-scheduling this so that we can make sure we are able to attend. Also we were told that the new biological report would be available on Monday. Please forward this to me. Yours, Dede 408-679-0254 (Mobile) On May 2, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Dorothea Smullen <d o rothea .smullen@ gmail.com > wrote: You mentioned that the notice of appeal had already been posted. We did not receive any notice. When were they mailed? Can you send me a copy? Thank you Yours, Dede 408-679-0254 (Mobile) 2 LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 5/11/2016 Item #2, 19 Highland Avenue 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A P P E A R A N C E S: Los Gatos Planning Commissioners: Mary Badame, Chair D. Michael Kane, Vice Chair Charles Erekson Melanie Hanssen Matthew Hudes Town Manager: Laurel Prevetti Interim Community Development Director: Joel Paulson Town Attorney: Robert Schultz Transcribed by: Vicki L. Blandin (510) 337-1558 ATTACHMENT 3 LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 5/11/2016 Item #2, 19 Highland Avenue 2 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 P R O C E E D I N G S: CHAIR BADAME: Item 2 is a requested continuance, and I will be recusing myself from this item due to a perceived conflict of interest with one of the four Appellants. Vice Chair Kane will be taking over, and I will return for the subcommittee reports. VICE CHAIR KANE: This is Architecture and Site Application S-15-077, 19 Highland Avenue. The matter was to be continued to a date certain, however, I have a Desk Item wherein there is a conflict of the parties’ availability to attend the date that was determined. Joel, do you want to clarify? We have a binary decision before us, and we’ll go with an informal procedure? JOEL PAULSON: We will, so anyone who wishes to speak on this item, I would suggest we give them three minutes, and that will also offer the opportunity to the Commission to ask questions. I believe representatives of both the Appellants and the Applicant are here this evening. As you read in your Desk Item, some of the Appellants are unable to make the May 25th meeting, which was the original intended date to be continued to, and the LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 5/11/2016 Item #2, 19 Highland Avenue 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Applicant has also stated that his architect will not be able to be at the next meeting, which would be June 8th, so ultimately the Planning Commission will be making a decision on which date the item should be continued to, and then we’ll move on from there. VICE CHAIR KANE: That’s all we’re deciding tonight is the date on which the matter will be heard. I’m going to open the public hearing. Anyone who wishes can speak on this matter. I will need a speaker card in advance of that. I have two. Dede Smullen. What did we decide, three minutes? You’ll have three minutes to address the Commission. DEDE SMULLEN: Hi, I’m Dede Smullen and I am representing Roger and Mercy Smullen as well as all four Appellants for this project. We were not consulted about the date, and unfortunately most of us, three of the four Appellants, are not available on the 25th. We were available today, but we would like to continue it to June or even further on, whatever is convenient for the Applicant, but the 25th simply will not work for us. We’ve been struggling to be heard on this project. Before the Development Review Committee we were informed that the decision was made before we were able to LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 5/11/2016 Item #2, 19 Highland Avenue 4 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 speak. We’d like to be able to speak to this application, and in a public hearing with our full complement of Appellants available. VICE CHAIR KANE: Let me clarify. You’re saying you and the other members of the Appellant group were not made aware of this date certain? DEDE SMULLEN: We were made aware when we received a notice of the meeting. VICE CHAIR KANE: Then you were aware? DEDE SMULLEN: When we received a written notice that there would be a continuance, that’s when we were made aware. VICE CHAIR KANE: Thank you. DEDE SMULLEN: We were not notified of this meeting on the 11th. They threw out a couple of dates, the 11th and the 25th, so we’ve made ourselves available for the 11th. We are not available for the 25th. VICE CHAIR KANE: All right, thank you. Questions for the speaker? Commissioner Hudes. COMMISSIONER HUDES: Did you as a representative of the Appellants request a continuance from May 25th? DEDE SMULLEN: Well, it hasn’t yet been continued to May 25th. We would like it to be on a different date, yes. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 5/11/2016 Item #2, 19 Highland Avenue 5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER HUDES: You requested a continuance to May 25th originally? DEDE SMULLEN: No, we did not. COMMISSIONER HUDES: You didn’t request any continuance on the matter? DEDE SMULLEN: No, we did not. COMMISSIONER HUDES: Okay. DEDE SMULLEN: We just can’t make that 25th date. VICE CHAIR KANE: Other questions? DEDE SMULLEN: We were told that it was the Staff’s decision to continue it, because of a lack of Commissioners available for this meeting. VICE CHAIR KANE: All right. Commissioner, question? COMMISSIONER HANSSEN: I heard that you wanted to continue it to some date past May 25th. Is there a date that you’re fairly certain that all of the Appellants could attend? DEDE SMULLEN: We weren’t really given enough time, but it sounds like the 8th is fine, but then we were told that the Applicant is not available on that date. We haven’t been given any other dates, so we haven’t had a chance to… COMMISSIONER HANSSEN: To confer about it? LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 5/11/2016 Item #2, 19 Highland Avenue 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 DEDE SMULLEN: …to confirm or not confirm. For me, I can make myself available, but… COMMISSIONER HANSSEN: But you can’t speak for the others? DEDE SMULLEN: I need advanced notice. We need at least a month’s notice to arrange our schedules. COMMISSIONER HANSSEN: Okay, thank you. VICE CHAIR KANE: Thank you. Commissioner Hanssen, anything else? No? Seeing no other questions, thank you. I have a card from Bess Wiersema. BESS WIERSEMA: Good evening, Commissioners. Staff, do you know where Marni is? Is she going to be here? JOEL PAULSON: She will not be here. BESS WIERSEMA: She will not? Okay. I am Ed Pearson’s architect for 19 Highland Avenue. We were also originally, I do believe, calendared for the 12th, or the 11th, I guess, today, but as there was additional information requested to happen at our DRC tech review in order to satisfy some of the concerns of the Appellant. That documentation from peer review is for biological surveys, arborist reports, et cetera, and wasn’t available until today. I do believe that’s part of why Staff asked to continue it and selected the date of the 25th. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 5/11/2016 Item #2, 19 Highland Avenue 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 I know there was also a little bit of concern about the number of potential Commissioners that were going to be here. We knew that Commissioner Badame was going to have to recuse herself; she’s the sister of one of the Appellants as part of this group of Appellants. The 25th is a really important date to us. We have a lot of people that are scheduled for that particular date: Richard Gessner of Monarch Consulting Arborists; Chris Hundemer of C2Earth Geotechnology; Ginger Bolen of H.T. Harvey Ecological Consulting; Velimir Sulic of Peoples Associates; Bart Hechtman, the land use attorney; and myself. This application has been prepared and approved by tech review. I don’t believe there’s really any logical reason to kind of put it past the 25th, especially as in all forums that we’ve had, public or otherwise, the DRC, meetings with the planner, et cetera, there have been extensive questions around a lot of the professional reports that have been prepared, not only the original professional reports, but the peer review professional reports, and then the professional reports that were also requested and paid for by my client in order to back up everything that’s been already approved. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 5/11/2016 Item #2, 19 Highland Avenue 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Also, I’m not really sure that continuing it does anything for my client or the nature of the project either. At a meeting on Saturday with the Appellant—that we wanted to have so we could try to actually avoid the 25th Planning Commission, but unfortunately, the majority of the group of the Appellants chose not to show up to that meeting that had been arranged—it was stated that no matter what happened at this meeting, that it would be requested to be continued above Planning Commission and to Town Council. So I think it’s in the best interest of my client—especially because more time goes by and it’s harder to do construction as we enter potential future rainy season—to stop the delay, to allow the time to happen when the professionals are all scheduled, and put this to rest once and for all. VICE CHAIR KANE: Thank you. Questions for the speaker? Seeing none, thank you, again. I’m going to close the public hearing and turn to my Commissioners for discussion or a motion, but first I’d like to ask a question. Mr. Paulson, in the Staff Report that we received for this hearing, the original, it says under Remarks, “Staff, the Applicant, and the Appellant request the item be continued to May 25th.” Does that mean exactly what it LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 5/11/2016 Item #2, 19 Highland Avenue 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 says? I mean, who made that request if they didn’t receive the notice? JOEL PAULSON: Ms. Moseley is not here this evening, so I’ll have to get confirmation of that, and whatever meeting this gets continued to, we’ll provide that information. VICE CHAIR KANE: Thank you. Discussion, Commission? Commissioner Hanssen. COMMISSIONER HANSSEN: I appreciate the comments from the Appellant as well as the Applicant. Since this is an appeal, my feeling is that this should be continued to a date where the Applicants’ professionals can be in attendance, because that’s an important component of this, and also that at least a majority of the Appellants could attend, as long as that isn’t going to drag on for months, I mean assuming it could be done before the end of June, that would be my thoughts. VICE CHAIR KANE: Thank you. Other comments? Commissioner Hudes. COMMISSIONER HUDES: Question for Staff. Is there available time on the next Planning Commission, I guess it’s June 22nd, July 13th, and July 27th, is there available agenda time for this matter? LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 5/11/2016 Item #2, 19 Highland Avenue 10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JOEL PAULSON: There appears to be room on the June 22nd. I do not have the tentative schedule for the meetings in July. VICE CHAIR KANE: Other questions? I have a question. Could I reopen the public hearing to see how the proposed compromise of June 22nd goes down, to see if that’s acceptable? JOEL PAULSON: If you want to reopen it and have both of the people who spoke before… VICE CHAIR KANE: Check with both sides. JOEL PAULSON: …check in, then that’s fine. I’m not sure if the Appellant has all of the other folks’ calendars, and so that’s something that will need to be addressed. VICE CHAIR KANE: I’m going to reopen the public hearing. Ms. Smullen, could you come to the podium, please? How does June 22nd work for you, ma’am? DEDE SMULLEN: It works fine for me. I can arrange our schedules so that I can be here. I can’t speak for the others, although it seemed to be that the 25th was the one that we had the biggest problem with. VICE CHAIR KANE: Thank you. DEDE SMULLEN: If there’s enough notice now, I think that they should be able to be here. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 5/11/2016 Item #2, 19 Highland Avenue 11 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 VICE CHAIR KANE: Just seeking opinions, thank you. Ms. Wiersema, do you want to return? Or, Cindy McCormick? CINDY McCORMICK: Hi, Cindy McCormick; I live at 239 Thurston. I’m the Applicant’s fiancé. Since the planner is not here this evening I just wanted to point out something that you may not have noticed. On the third page of the Desk Item, at the bottom where it starts from Marni, it says, “Sorry, Dede. I did not receive the first email. We spoke about the dates when we met almost two weeks ago.” Obviously, the planner is not here this evening to address that, but I did want to bring it to your attention. Thank you. VICE CHAIR KANE: What are you saying it says, that they knew about the date? CINDY McCORMICK: Yes, sir. VICE CHAIR KANE: Thank you. Questions for the speaker? I have one other question. How does June 22nd work for you? CINDY McCORMICK: It doesn’t work. VICE CHAIR KANE: Thank you. Any questions? Any other speakers? BESS WIERSEMA: I would just like to reiterate that we have gone multiple rounds on this project, it has LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 5/11/2016 Item #2, 19 Highland Avenue 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 been properly noticed, we have a group of six professional people that have been called upon to make multiple reports about this project and peer review, and we all have critical mass on the 25th. We were able to get our group organized for that. I would really appreciate it, if it really meant as much to the Appellant’s group, that they would figure out how to do that and to come together. VICE CHAIR KANE: All right, thank you for your comments. I’ve reopened the public hearing just to see if June 22nd would work for you. BESS WIERSEMA: Well, I think that Ed feels it’s too late, and so if I’ve got to change my calendar, and we have to check in to see if the 8th works, I guess that okay. What we know if that the 25th works. VICE CHAIR KANE: Thank you. We have a question from Commissioner Erekson. COMMISSIONER EREKSON: How does June 8th work? That’s a month from now. VICE CHAIR KANE: I need you to come to the microphone. None of your comments are being recorded. And give us your name, please. ED PEARSON: Ed Pearson, 239 Thurston Street. We could do the 8th. The only thing is I can’t guarantee if any of the professionals, if all of them could make it, or if LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 5/11/2016 Item #2, 19 Highland Avenue 13 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 one could make it, or three could make it, so I would just have to take my chances if we did the 8th. Hopefully all of them could make it, but I’d have to take my chances. They are a group, and I’m just taking my chances. All of them might not be able to be there at the meeting. VICE CHAIR KANE: So we have an additional date of June 8th, proposed by Commissioner Erekson. You say that’s a possibility? ED PEARSON: It’s a possibility, I just might not have all the professionals that I need here to present my case, and if there are any questions regarding the project, they may not… I can’t say for sure, since I don't know. It could one might not be here, it could be four might not be able to be here. VICE CHAIR KANE: In all fairness to you, I need a yes or a no so that you put forth your best case. ED PEARSON: The question, again? VICE CHAIR KANE: Does June 8th work for you? ED PEARSON: It would work. VICE CHAIR KANE: Thank you. Wait, there’s a question. Commissioner Erekson. COMMISSIONER EREKSON: So you would have available whatever reports all of those professionals are preparing in advance of that meeting? LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 5/11/2016 Item #2, 19 Highland Avenue 14 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ED PEARSON: They’re already done, that’s correct. COMMISSIONER EREKSON: Okay, fine, so we would have… Okay, that’s it. VICE CHAIR KANE: Thank you. ED PEARSON: Thank you. VICE CHAIR KANE: I would have closed the public hearing, except for this additional information, so my question to you is binary. Is June 8th good or bad? DEDE SMULLEN: That is fine. I just wanted to address the last two people… VICE CHAIR KANE: I’m happy with that answer. Thank you very much. DEDE SMULLEN: …who accused me of something. VICE CHAIR KANE: It’s not necessary. DEDE SMULLEN: Okay. VICE CHAIR KANE: No. I like everybody. DEDE SMULLEN: Because we did not know about the 25th. VICE CHAIR KANE: We are closing the public hearing. DEDE SMULLEN: All right. VICE CHAIR KANE: Thank you. I look to my Commissioners for discussion or a motion. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 5/11/2016 Item #2, 19 Highland Avenue 15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER EREKSON: I move to move this to June 8, 2016 for a hearing at that time by the Planning Commission. VICE CHAIR KANE: Thank you. Any objections with that, Staff, on anything we don’t know about? JOEL PAULSON: No, we’ll make that work. VICE CHAIR KANE: I need a second. COMMISSIONER HANSSEN: (Raises hand.) VICE CHAIR KANE: I have a second. Is there a discussion? Seeing none, I’ll call the motion. All those in favor? It carries 4-0.