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3.2 Attachment 2ON 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 a 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 P E A R A N C E S: Los Gatos Planning Kendra Burch, Chair Commissioners: Mary Badame, Vice Chair Melanie Hanssen D. Michael Kane Tom O'Donnell Joanne Talesfore Community Development Laurel Prevetti Director: Planning Manager: Joel Paulson Town Attorney: Robert Schultz Transcribed by: Vicki L. Blandin (510) 337-1558 ATTACHMENT 2 294 LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 e 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 16 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 P R O C E E D I N G S: CHAIR BURCH: Now we are going to move back to what was agendized Item 6, which is a public hearing to consider adoption of amendments to Chapter 2, Constraints, Analysis and Site Selection; and Chapter 5, Architectural Design of Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines. Mr. Paulson, I understand you're going to be providing us the report on this. JOEL PAULSON: I'll provide a brief report. Before you this evening, as directed by Town Council, Staff has prepared some proposed amendments to the Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines for two specific topic areas: the first being methodology for visibility analysis, and the second being the opportunity for future homeowners to use an LRV averaging option if the homes aren't visible as defined by the Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines. Staff has pointed out some questions for the Commission to consider specifically relating to the visibility methodology. Mr. Weissman has also provided some other issues that the Commission can definitely address, and above and beyond that, anything else that the _g5 LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines 2 I Commission has concerns about, we're here to answer 2 questions. 3 This will be a recommendation to the Town 4 Council—this is not the final deciding body—and so any 5 recommendation could include additional direction and that 6 would get forwarded on to the Town Council when 7 appropriate. a 9 CHAIR BURCH: Thank you. Do we have any questions 10 of Staff at this time? Commissioner Kane, then Commissioner 11 O'Donnell. 12 COMMISSIONER KANE: Well, the obvious. What 13 you've provided on the sections you provided for me, for me 14 they're fine, but the question really is how do we proceed is with respect to Dr. Weissman's letter? Do we ask you for a 16 rewrite? Do we say which ones we want to rewrite, or to 17 include or not include? He brings u excellent g P points, and is he puts more strength into the guidelines. How shall we 19 proceed on the presumption that we want to incorporate 20 those stronger provisions? 21 JOEL PAULSON: If those are things that the 22 23 Commission is interested in adding, then that would be part 24 of your direction to Town Council as part of your zs recommendation, and whether it's all, some, similar to the Tree Protection Ordinance. I think you'll probably remember 296 LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Dr. Weissman had additional comments that weren't originally incorporated into the Tree Protection Ordinance amendments, but many of those the Commission decided to forward on as part of their recommendation to the Town Council. COMMISSIONER KANE: So depending on our guidance, will you then consider adopting and putting into the form of the guidelines themselves, which would make it easier for Town Council to approve? JOEL PAULSON: Those would be part of the amendments as the Planning Commission moves forward to the Town Council. They would be receiving verbatim minutes, and then also Staff would be outlining those proposed modifications to the Town Council from the Planning Commission. COMMISSIONER KANE: So it would be prepared, but they'd do a go, no go? JOEL PAULSON: Correct. COMMISSIONER KANE: Thank you. CHAIR BURCH: Commissioner O'Donnell. COMMISSIONER O'DONNELL: I have two separate points. The first is a question which is relating to page two where it says, "The following steps shall be taken in LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines 4 _97 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 e 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 1e 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 completing a view analysis," and if you move down about four maybe, it says, "If determined necessary, three- dimensional illustrations." It isn't clear to me, determined by whom? And if you go down another ... skip the next one and go to the other one where they say, "Other locations as deemed appropriate by the deciding body may be chosen." It isn't clear to me when. So if I'm an applicant and I do what I think is the law and I come in and you say guess what, we're adding another viewing station, it seems sort of unfair. Whereas if I file the application and you decide you want a different viewing station, an additional viewing station, and you tell me, that seems fair to me. Now, I don't know if it's practical. So my two questions on that are as I said. Then the separate point is I think the comments raised are very, very good. On the other hand, I think they're worthy of some real consideration and I don't know if this is the right time—it's certainly the right place—to do it. Maybe it is. It's 10:00 o'clock, and I personally would like to really discuss these things, notwithstanding that I think they're a lot of very good suggestions, I 9on't necessarily think all of them are good suggestions, Dut maybe I'm wrong. So I will throw out the question to my LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines 5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 e 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 is 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 fellow commissioners really as to whether we should set up a special time to consider these things and have a discussion of them, or whether we should do it tonight? But before we get to that, I would like to have a question on those two paragraphs that I asked you about. JOEL PAULSON: Sure. Those are both great points. The Community Development Director would make the determination, so we can add that clarification in there. And secondly, with the view platform's alternative locations, the existing guidelines actually provide for that opportunity, so Staff would be looking on a case-by-case basis. When an application comes in we would go out to the platforms and look for visibility. If there's something that came up with some recent projects where if you move one way or the other some distance, then you have visibility. So those are the determinations that Staff would be making in conjunction with the Community Development Director. COMMISSIONER O'DONNELL: Let me make sure I understood that. So if I have a project and I go out and do whatever I do, and then you look at it and like one of the things is all I can see is the Chevron sign, and you say would you go out and go 150' down, is that the way it would happen? LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines 2 .d9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 a 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 1e 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JOEL PAULSON: That is the way it would happen. COMMISSIONER O'DONNELL: So it's possible that a person would have done what they thought was what you required, but that person would be also aware that if it's crystal clear, that's probably where it's going to end, but perhaps if it's not crystal clear you may ask for... I don't know if you can ask for more than one, or certainly an additional, viewing platform. JOEL PAULSON: That's correct. LAUREL PREVETTI: And to that point, if it would be clearer, instead of it being determined by the deciding body and note with the first star, that could also be clarified to be as deemed appropriate by the Community Development Director. So you don't have to wait until you're before a deciding body and then you have to head back out to the field. CHAIR BURCH: I think that that's an excellent suggestion. COMMISSIONER O'DONNELL: It sounds better now. CHAIR BURCH: Yes. Commissioner Talesfore. CHAIR TALESFORE: By the way, I think that sounds better. My question for that is when do the story poles go up in the hillsides? If this additional viewing platform LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines 7 300 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 would be decided by the Community Development Director, would the ten days before—I think it's ten days before -does that give Staff or the Director enough time to say this isn't going to work: JOEL PAULSON: When story poles go up depends. When a view analysis is necessary, then they would go up much earlier than a hearing, because we'd have to do that analysis prior to even setting a hearing. CHAIR TALESFORE: Yes, thank you. I wanted to clarify that. So to Commissioner O'Donnell's point about this discussion, I think this could be a very rich and deep discussion. I think we could spend an hour just on visibility. I think we could spend another hour on LRV averaging. I like to suggest that we maybe set aside a special meeting. CHAIR BURCH: I agree, but we do have people that have come to speak. CHAIR TALESFORE: I'm not finished. But tonight I think we could use our time wisely perhaps by asking any questions we have prior to that next meeting, and listening to the speakers and entertaining that. That's what I would put forward. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines 0 DIM 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 a 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 la 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 CHAIR BURCH: So I'm going to strongly suggest that we have our speakers come in front of us, because I do believe we're going to have quite a few questions for our speakers. Following the speakers, I would like to then reevaluate with the Commission timing, and if we do want to continue it for a special meeting. COMMISSIONER O'DONNELL: Let me just ask this question. It strikes me that, for example, if I'm out there and I want to speak, and at the end of the day we're going to continue it for a study session, I guess if I'm a speaker I'd rather speak at the study session than speak now, because, for example, the comments that we have have raised questions in my mind, but if the speaker doesn't know what those questions are, it makes it difficult. If, on the other hand, we're in study session and we really go over all this stuff, and somebody then has an opportunity to respond, perhaps it would be clearer. CHAIR BURCH: So could Staff clarify that? We could have speakers speak tonight, but we could also have them speak at the study session? JOEL PAULSON: Correct. They would be speaking at both hearings. MALE: (Inaudible). CHAIR BURCH: No. Unfortunately not from... LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines i 302 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 e 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 is 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 MALE: (Inaudible). CHAIR BURCH: Unfortunately, you can't. We can't... Sorry. My lawyer will get very upset at me if I do that. So because they've sat here all evening, I'm going to open the public portion. I'm going to listen to the speakers and then let's discuss it. That also gives the speakers as they come up, since they've heard this dialogue, they can weigh in on it as they come in and speak to us about coming to the study session. So that being said, I'm opening the public portion of this item and I'm going to call up Steve Abbs. You have three minutes. STEVE ABBS: Good evening, I'm Steve Abbs with Davidon Homes. As Mr. Weismann pointed out a month or so ago in a Planning Commission hearing, the Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines are a balance of property rights and the goals and interests of the citizens of Los Gatos. The Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines is a document that the Town has put a lot of effort into. we find it tough, but we find it fair and workable as it exists today. we do find it a little unfair that the rules are kind of changing as we're close to getting these applications approved. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines 10 2 3 4 5 6 7 s 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 is 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 M But I think it's important that any amendments (that are being done to the Hillside Development Standards land Guidelines keep that balance of fairness. I think what IMr. Weissman is proposing has a lot of unfairness with regard to property rights. I do support the fact that if we go do a study session I think Davidon, being probably one of the most experienced in the visual analysis side of things -we've probably done more visual analyses in the history of this town -I think we have a lot of valuable experience and I think we would definitely be interested in providing some input with respect to that. we also think that if there is a study session that the Town Arborist should have some say in this thing. I think again, what Mr. Weissman is coming up with, there are a lot of things that we don't agree with, and I think both sides definitely need to be heard on this. When this was brought to Town Council, they specifically... This is the only reason we're here, because Town Council sent us to Staff. Staff was to get specific clarification on the methodology regarding two things, one being the viewing platform. Then also they had some confusion on existing trees; what trees are going to be removed and what trees are going to be impacted by construction. we wanted to make sure that those were not LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines M] 1 2 3 4 s 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 is 16 17 1s 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 part of the screening of the visual analysis. Those were basically the two confused items that Council sent us back to Staff for clarification. I do want to quickly say that it is important that the Commission keeps in mind that this visual analysis is supposed to be taken from the naked eye, standing on a viewing platform. The level of detail that Mr. Weissman speaks of, trying to define twigs and leaves and dead branches from 1.5 miles away, is just not practical in this situation. I support what Staff has recommended for the methodology and I believe it is what we have been doing, but again, we would like to offer our insight through this process in making sure that these guidelines get amended properly. Thank you. CHAIR BURCH: Thank you. Do we have any questions? No? All right, our next speaker is Jeff Thayer. JEFF THAYER: Steve made some good comments. I'm Jeff Thayer with Davidon Homes, and we do feel like we're on a little bit of quicksand here after 14 approvals in a row, and we think we've done a great job up there, but we welcome the opportunity to have... My question is are we going to be able to have an actual discussion here, or are we going to have to go in LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines 12 J5 1 1three-minute increments, or how is that going to work in a 2 Istudy session? 3 I LAUREL PREVETTI: Typically it is in three-minute 4 increments. s JEFF THAYER: In a study session too? 6 LAUREL PREVETTI: Yes. 7 e 1 JEFF THAYER: Because we can't get ... we just can't have a analysis. 9 to LAUREL PREVETTI: Right. 11 CHAIR BURCH: Unless of course people have 12 questions. 13 LAUREL PREVETTI: Well, let us work with our Town 14 Attorney to figure out a methodology, because I'm sure 15 you're not the only one who would like to have more of a 16 dialogue with the Commission. 17 JEFF THAYER: Absolutely, absolutely. is LAUREL PREVETTI: I think our challenge is how do 19 we balance the dialogue opportunity with also the 20 deliberation opportunity. So we'll work with our Town 21 Attorney. Thank you. 22 CHAIR BURCH: Question? 23 24 VICE CHAIR BADAME: I would like to comment that zs we always welcome written correspondence. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines 13 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JEFF THAYER: Which you will get when you set your date and all that. I did have a little brain teaser for you, and I don't want to get you all mad at me, but as I look down at the bullet points, it says, "A visible home is defined as a single-family residence where 25% or more of an elevation can be seen from the Town's established viewing platforms." And then down at the bottom there's a little three -star asterisk to that, and it says, "Percentages shall be rounded to the nearest whole number." So if our calculation shows exactly 24.5%, do you round down or do you round up? If you round up, we're out of compliance. If you round down, we're in. If it's 25.01%, we're out of compliance. Do you know what I'm saying? That was just really kind of tongue in cheek, but it's kind of an example of when we're going into these things. I'm sure that was meant to be a simplification, but in fact it's something subject to abuse, and if we don't get this kind of alteration of the rules correct and fair you're going to create a situation that is far more complicated in the future than it is today. CHAIR BURCH: Thank you. Any questions? No? Dr. (Weissman. COMMISSIONER OIDONNELL: One question. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines 14 A7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 e 9 10 11 12 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 CHAIR BURCH: Okay, yes. COMMISSIONER O'DONNELL: Isn't it anywhere up to 24.4, you round down; 25.5 you round up? I mean that's what I learned in grammar school, so I don't know. COMMISSIONER KANE: Madam Chair? CHAIR BURCH: Yes. COMMISSIONER KANE: The point is excellent, and maybe the language could be rewritten to 24.5% or more. What else do you want to round? You don't want to round 19.215. You just want to know whether or not you got 25%. So change the 25% to 24.5. CHAIR BURCH: Yes, and I think that that's a point that we will add in. All right, next speaker. DAVID WEISSMAN: Dave Weissman, Francis Oaks. I trust that all Commissioners have had the opportunity to read my Exhibit 4 letter of September 15`h. I am happy to answer any questions that you may have in reference to that letter. But first I would like to quote for emphasis one particularly important and relevant section of the Hillside Standards as you consider what items you may want to add to the Staff draft. One page 13 of the Hillside Standards, it says, and I quote: "Potential," as it relates to visibility, "is defined as capable of being seen from a LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines 15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 e 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 1e 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 viewing platform if trees or large shrubs are removed, significantly pruned, or impacted by construction." These items are already included in the Hillside Standards, and you have been asked by the Town Council to consider incorporating these and other potential areas discussed by the Town Council at their May 2015 meeting; and there were many more issues discussed than the two that Mr. Abbs just referenced. while some of these issues have subjective components, we can provide better guidance for Staff and developers that are consistent with the goals of the Hillside Standards; and one of the reasons the rounding off was employed, because these are some subjective things. As the hour is already late, may I suggest a possible action so that you don't have to wordsmith this document tonight? I propose that should you find merit in some or all of the eight categories that I have discussed in my letter, four of which are listed on page three of the Staff Report, that you select those items and direct Staff to work with me on specific language to codify these? Staff and I did a similar successful collaboration on the recent Tree Protection Ordinance revision, and I see no reason why we couldn't have a revised draft for the next Planning LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines 16 .J9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 e 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Commission meeting. I think this should come back to the Planning Commission before going to the Town Council. I first brought up these issues on May 19, 2015. I have offered to work with Davidon on some of them, and we haven't gotten anywhere. Mr. Abbs expressed concern about the fact that dead twigs ... he talked about removino dead twigs, and so forth. Well, in fact those dead twigs have been used in the visibility analysis done by Davidon's architect to count as screening. Davidon has also put forth the issue of fire control. Well, it says in the Hillside Standards that one issue of fire control is to remove dead twigs. CHAIR BURCH: All right, thank you. Do we have any questions? No? All right. Our last speaker is Michael Keaney. MICHAEL KEANEY: Thank you, Madam Chair and Members of the Commission. My name is Michael Keaney; I'm with Summer Hill Homes and I am the project manager for the project that we have under construction at the Sisters of the Holy Name site on Prospect Road. We've been under construction for most of this year. We're finishing up the site improvements here in the LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines 17 310 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 e 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 is 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 next month or two, and we expect to start construction on the first home in October, next month. We are supportive of the proposed amendments to (Section 1.2 of Chapter 5 to allow LRV averaging for non- visible homes that Staff is proposing, and ask that you make a recommendation to the Town Council to adopt this revision. We are aware of the fact that there is another Ipiece of this that is more complicated with the view corridor analysis, and our project is not subject to that requirement, and I'm sure there are other projects besides ours that are not. The LRV averaging was part of the Davidon project. I believe you reviewed it at that time and thought that it was a good alternative for projects that were not visible from the viewing platforms, and Council had the opinion and recommended that that amendment be adopted for all projects that could qualify for it. I think there is a consensus around this as an improvement to the guidelines, and as a project that is currently under construction we would like the benefit of that improved guideline really as soon as possible; we're going to be starting construction and it seems silly not to implement something that everyone agrees is an improvement. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines is ,11 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 2s So while it may take a while to address the view analysis issue, I would hope that there might be an opportunity to move forward the LRV averaging. Thank you. CHAIR BURCH: Thank you. Do we have any questions? No? All right, thank you. I don't have any other cards, so I am going to close the public portion of this discussion. I do want to bring up that I think the last speaker had a good point, so I'd like to ask my Commissioners, I think a lot of our concerns do come from the view, and do we also want the study session to include the averaging, or how do we feel about the color averaging? Do we want to break those apart? Keep them together? I just want to get everybody's feel for that. Commissioner Talesfore. CHAIR TALESFORE: Absolutely we need to spend time with color averaging. Absolutely, and it should be included in the meeting. CHAIR BURCH: Commissioner O'Donnell. COMMISSIONER O'DONNELL: I wanted to respond to the suggestion that we do some drafting before we have the meeting, and personally I would find that to be either counterproductive or unfair. We're all saying we need some time to educate ourselves and to hear not only from Staff, LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines 19 312 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 which is very helpful, but perhaps hear some conflicting views and to take our time and to think about it. If we were to now say to Staff, grab this one, that one, and this one, personally I would not feel well enough armed to do that, and that's the whole purpose of the study session. So I don't see how we can say go ahead and start drafting some things before we consider what we're doing and maybe that will help us, because then that means well maybe Davidon or something else should be doing their counter -proposal drafts. It just to me seems a waste of time. CHAIR BURCH: Okay. Any other comments? So, do we want to set a study session to dive into this, and set a date? All right. CHAIR TALESFORE: It doesn't have to be on a Wednesday, right? I mean I would entertain another day. CHAIR BURCH: I think as long as we agree. CHAIR TALESFORE: Okay. COMMISSIONER KANE: Wednesday would be (inaudible). CHAIR BURCH: Wednesday is preferred? But it does not have to be a Planning Commission night, right? I mean we could do a different Wednesday. So if you're looking at just the Planning Commission dates, I don't think that we're tied to those. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines 20 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 M JOEL PAULSON: There are a number of options. If we're going to go into a study session we can start the Planning Commission early and do the study session before, which is one option. Moving forward just to get the study session going if we're not going to go through and hear initial comments, then we can probably do something maybe as early as the 21" on an off Planning Commission night, or the 28th if we want to do it before a Planning Commission; just two suggestions. CHAIR TALESFORE: You're looking at October? JOEL PAULSON: Correct. CHAIR TALESFORE: Do we have to wait that long? JOEL PAULSON: I think we can look at the 7th or the 14th; whatever the Planning Commission is interested in, we can start that study session. We have to make sure that any additional information we're going to prepare, we have time to do that. COMMISSIONER O'DONNELL: What were the dates? JOEL PAULSON: The 21Bt 28th any of the probably Wednesdays in October. VICE CHAIR BADAME: I believe October 7th this is reserved for the Victim Services Unit. JOEL PAULSON: So 14th, 215L, or 28th LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines 21 314 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER O'DONNELL: We also don't want (inaudible) maybe at 4:00 o'clock on certain Wednesdays. JOEL PAULSON: Great point. So that would take the 28`h off. COMMISSIONER O'DONNELL: Leaving the 14`h. JOEL PAULSON: 14`h or 218L CHAIR TALESFORE: (Inaudible) before the Planning Commission. CHAIR BURCH: Yeah. JOEL PAULSON: That's right, the 14`h we have Conceptual Development Advisory Committee, so we're looking at the 218`. CHAIR BURCH: Right. Yup. Commissioner Hanssen. COMMITTEE MEMBER HANSSEN: I know we've set the first date for the Planned Development Ordinance, and that's next Wednesday. JOEL PAULSON: That's September 30th COMMITTEE MEMBER HANSSEN: No other meetings have been set yet, so that's not going to be an issue? JOEL PAULSON: Correct. We can work around that. CHAIR BURCH: All right. COMMISSIONER O'DONNELL: We're talking the 21"? CHAIR BURCH: 218C of October. COMMISSIONER O'DONNELL: At what time? LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines 22 15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 a 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JOEL PAULSON: We'd probably start a study session at 6:00, or we can start it at 7:00, if that works better for Commissioners' schedules. CHAIR BURCH: Earlier. Six is fine. Everyone's looking at me because I (inaudible). CHAIR TALESFORE: Wait a minute. Study session at 6:00 on the same night as a... CHAIR BURCH: No, it would be the 21s` CHAIR TALESFORE: Thank you. CHAIR BURCH: Yeah. Oh, no. VICE CHAIR BADAME: As a heads up, I may not be able to make that. COMMISSIONER KANE: The day or the time? VICE CHAIR BADAME: The time. But go ahead and plan accordingly. I'm just one person. CHAIR BURCH: Well, what time is better? COMMISSIONER KANE: What time is better? CHAIR TALESFORE: Which time is better for you. VICE CHAIR BADAME: It would have to be a different date, or even earlier, if it was maybe 4:30 and we're out of here by 6:00. CHAIR BURCH: Well, you guys? CHAIR TALESFORE: I could do that. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines 23 316 1 2 anyway. 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 2s CHAIR BURCH: I mean I could get out earlier, COMMISSIONER O'DONNELL: I don't think an hour - and -a -half is going to do it. CHAIR TALESFORE: But you could be here for most of it. VICE CHAIR BADAME: Yes. COMMISSIONER O'DONNELL: I was going to say maybe we should put not only a beginning, but an end. But personally I think two hours is... CHAIR BURCH: Let's slate it for two hours. O'DONNELL: 4:00. CHAIR BURCH: Well, we need to know about Staff's day too. COMMISSIONER O'DONNELL: Right. CHAIR BURCH: With that much notice, I know I can do it, I can leave early, but what about you guys? Okay, so let's do it on the 2180 for now. That's what we're slated for, 4:00 to 6:00. VICE CHAIR BADAME: 4:00 to 6:00? CHAIR BURCH: Yup. JOEL PAULSON: And so we'll also tomorrow check availability to make sure there's no other conflicting meetings here that evening. If there are, then we will poll 17 LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines 24 1 2 3 4 5 6 a 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 1e 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 (Commissioners for alternative dates and then make sure that we inform the public through What's New, and then obviously the speakers that are here tonight, we will inform them directly. CHAIR BURCH: A point was brought up as part of this study session. Could we bring the Town Arborist in on this, too? JOEL PAULSON: Definitely. CHAIR BURCH: Okay. I think having multiple viewpoints would be very beneficial. Okay. Does anyone have another other comments for that? All right, we will continue that to the 216t at 4:00. Yes? COMMISSIONER KANE: Can these guys give (inaudible)? CHAIR BURCH: I'd have to open up the public portion to do that. I'm going to let Staff coordinate that and let us know. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 9/23/2015 Item #6, Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines 25 318 This Page Intentionally Left Blank A9