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From: Susan Kankel fmailto :susankankel@comcast.netl
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11 :16 AM
To: Greg Larson
Subject: Off -leash dog parks
Mr. Larson,
Having read many comments about Los Gatos having an off -leash dog park, and the perils and perks of
such, might I suggest temporary solution?
Since the Town owns the Dittos property and nothing is going to happen there in the next year or two,
why not make it a temporary off -leash park?
Automobile traffic would not be an issue, that particular section of Main Street is a hub for dogs and
their owners, and it might promote some positive responses from the community.
Very little would have to be done to the property, except perhaps a port -potty or two, and regulations
can be copied from the other dog parks in the area.
Please share this idea with the Council members.
Thank you,
Susan Kankel
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From: pamabond @gmail.com [mailto:pama bond @gmailcoml On Behalf Of Pamela Bond
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:23 PM
To: Council
Subject: unleashed dogs at Los Gatos parks
Hi,
I hope it isn't too late for public comment on the issue of whether to allow unleashed dogs during
certain hours at several local parks. We frequent Bachman Park with my 2.5 year old and have since she
was about 9 months old. It is a nice, quiet park for very young children specifically and already, there
are people who leave their dogs unleashed at that park. We are usually there in the afternoon and
there are generally at least 2 or 3 dog owners with dogs unleashed and running up and down the hill on
the opposite end from where the playground is. It makes it very difficult to explore the whole park with
our toddler because even though the owners assure us that they have "good dogs" or dogs that "love
children" the children do not know this, nor is it possible to communicate this when they are very young
and the dogs are active and jovial. We just avoid that end of the park though I'd rather not.
I think that there is a reason why dog parks are fenced in. Bachman park is not fenced in and I feel that
for responsible use as a dog park, the portion available for unleashed dogs should really be fenced in.
I do think that dog owners should have good, designated parks to unleash their dogs and I believe there
may not be too many in the downtown area. I wouldn't mind if part of Bachman became usable during
certain times of the day, but I believe that it should be done responsibly and not at the expense of
children. Bachman is one of a very few places near downtown to take our young children and I'd hate to
see it become overrun with loose dogs. The smell factor is also a nuisance, I'm sure, for neighbors and
park goers and so I'd hate to see it have more than limited hours as a dog park.
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I can't speak to the other parks because I haven't been to them but I think it is probably the same
situation at these parks. Responsible dog park facilities are a must where children and dogs are to play
in the same area.
Sincerely,
Pam Bond
17121 Los Robles Way
Los Gatos, CA 95030
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From: Thomas Tinor (tinor) . [mailto:tinor(a?cisco.coml
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 10:03 AM
To: Christy Wolter
Subject: Off Leash Use: Bachman Park
I will attend meeting #2 & #3 time permitting. I am a resident of Los Gatos (95030) and live near
Bachman Park. I am a responsible dog owner and have used the park to walk my dog (on leash) for
nearly 10 years. I do believe in "off leash" areas within designated parks, however I have seen that the
dogs are not the problem. It's the owners who cannot control their dogs within a non - confined space. I
have an older dog, and now have to walk my dog "around" the park for fear of a pack "meet and greet ".
Many dog owners cannot control their dogs and they run "like a pack of dogs to any new or
approaching dog. I have also had 2 bad experiences with off leashed un- controlled dogs running head
and ears down at my dog. (Which I believe is a sign of aggression). I had to provide protection for my
dog on both instances. I've also had parents in the park complain about the uncontrolled, undisciplined,
unprotected area that these dogs are allowed to run in.
If an area within Bachman is selected, my suggestion is to provide a fenced Rated area within the park.
Not sure about the esthetics (since the open space is very nice), but the cost and maintenance of this
confined space could be funded by the dog owner's themselves. I am in favor, which the specific users of
that area (the dog owners themselves) either pay and /or contribute for the use.
Thank you for consideration on this matter.
Tom Tinor
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On 5/2/12 4:51 PM, "Britta Young < brittabo @verizon.net wrote:
>Dear Council Member Steve Rice,
>As a constituent of Town I feel very strongly that we should adopt the
>provisional program for dogs off leash at the 3 parks in question. I
>would like to see the parks opened for off leash activities from 10am
>to
>12 pm and 7pm to 8pm daily. This will meet the needs of all users and
>allow a fair and equitable distribution of the Town's resources.
> Sincerely,
>Britta Young
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From: n e irwin < nancvirwinl @yahoo.com
Reply -To: n e irwin < nancyirwinl @vahoo.com
Date: Thursday, May 3, 2012 1:00 PM
To: "Stephen M. Rice" < srice @losgatosca.gov
Subject: Off -leash proposal
May 3, 2012
Dear Council Member Rice,
As 27 year residents of Los Gatos, we feel very strongly that we should adopt the provisional program
for dogs off leash at the 3 parks in question.
We would like to see the parks opened for off leash activities from 10am to 12 pm and 7pm to 8pm
daily.
We believe that this will meet the needs of all users and allow a fair and equitable distribution of the
Town's resources.
Thank you very much for your consideration,
Nancy & Glenn Irwin
315 Penn Way
Los Gatos CA 95032
408 - 656 -1159
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From: Sue Farwell < s.farwell @verizon.net
Date: Friday, May 4, 2012 7:51 AM
To: "Stephen M. Rice" < srice @losgatosca.gov
Cc: Greg Larson < GLarson @losgatosca.gov
Subject: Off Leash Trial
Mayor Steve Rice,
As a constituent of the Town of Los Gatos, I feel very strongly that we should adopt the provisional
program for dogs off leash at the 3 parks in question. I would like to see the parks opened for off
leash activities from 8 am to 10 am and 5 pm to 7 pm daily, or whichever times there is a
consensus. This will meet the needs of all users and allow a fair and equitable distribution of the
Town's resources.
Sincerely,
Sue Farwell
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From: "Connie Garske ( Ankenbruck ) " < connieankenbruck @gmail.com
Date: Sunday, May 6, 2012 4:01 PM
To: Steve Leonardis < SLeonardis @los at�gov >, Diane McNutt < dmcnutt @losgatosca.gov >, BSpector
< BSpector @losgatosca.gov >, "Stephen M. Rice" < srice @Iosgatosca.gov >, Joe Pirzynski
< 1Pirzynski @losgatosca.gov
Subject: Off Leash policy
Dear Los Gatos Council Members,
I am responding to the off leash initiative which for most of us is a formality within the town in which
we live. For those of us who have done the research, traveled to other areas that have successfully
researched and practiced the policy for years such as the citizens of New York City, we have much to
learn and gain as a society and as a community.
Please view some points of those who have traveled before us and have years of documented data to
support and illustrate why living in fear as it relates to these animals is moot. Proper planning and
education can overcome those who are fearful as in most situations in society. Please read on especially
the data under "6 ".
Top 10 Reasons to Preserve Dog
Off -leash Hours Policy in NYC
1. Off -leash dog owners have been repeatedly credited by Parks Commissioners with helping
reclaim NYC parks from crime, violence, and decline.
2. The half million taxpaying dog owners of NYC deserve and need outdoor space to recreate
with their dogs.
3. Off -leash recreation better socializes dogs, resulting in better canine citizens, which benefit
the communities in which they live.
4. Off -leash Hours policy gets people into the parks, bringing New Yorkers together and
making the City a more pleasant place.
5. Dog owners who use Off - leash Hours are a strong deterrent against crime in the parks early
in the morning and late in the evening.
6. New York's dramatic reduction in dog bites from over 40,000 annually before off -leash
privileges to just under 4,000 annually in 2005 coincides with the advent of the Off -leash
dog recreation, official Off -leash Hours and dog parks.
7. Dogs off -leash in a natural setting playing, running, and being themselves are a beautiful
sight for dog owners and most non -dog owners.
8. Many other cities and municipalities have agreed that providing off -leash opportunities
makes good public policy and has had overall positive effect that strongly outweighs any
negatives.
9. Throwing a ball, running with, and playing with one's dog is a legitimate park recreational
activity.
10. Though dog parks are great, there are not nearly enough of them to meet the demand from
500,000 dog owners.
I think data is something that greatly supports the stance of those in favor of an off leash policy and
hope you will support an elevated society, not one that caves to ignorance.
A Respectful Dog Owner,
Connie Ankenbruck, Los Gatos
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From: Henry L Brooks < henry brooks @comcast.net
Date: Sunday, May 6, 2012 5:26 PM
To: "Stephen M. Rice" < srice @losgatosca.gov
Subject: Dog's Off Leash meeting this Wdnesday
Mr Greg Larson, Los Gatos Town Manager:
As a citizen of Los Gatos I feel that we should adopt the dogs off leash at the 3 parks in question
Sincerely,
Henry L. Brooks
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From: jennifer muraoka < iennifermuraokaegmail.com >
Date: Monday, May 7, 2012 1:03 PM
To: "Stephen M. Rice" < srice @Iosgatosca.gov
Subject: Off -leash hours
Dear Steve,
hope that you will favorably consider the plan for off -leash hours for dogs at our neighborhood parks.
Thank You,
Jennifer Muraoka
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From: Jeffrey McClanahan fmailtoJeffreymcc @amail.com1
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 6:57 PM
To: Diane McNutt; BSpector; Steve Rice; Joe Pirzynski; Town Manager
Subject: Proposed Dog's Off Leash Program
Dear Town of Los Gatos Officials,
I am writing this letter to you as the Director of the organization of residents who favor an
off leash program in the Town of Los Gatos, CA.
The number of dog owners who occupy this town are in excess of 9,000. Many of us have
united to work for a reasonable solution to park usage and shared experience of the land to
which we are all entitled. When you review the proposed plan for 3 of the Town's parks to
be utilized for a very limited number of hours of dog's off leash I would encourage you to
consider the following:
1. Only the most forward thinking municipalities are up to date with real statistics
concerning dog issues, ownership, socialization and recreation. ( This does not include
Cupertino, which had an envoy appear at the first meeting in an attempt to end dog's off
leash as they did in that City.) I would also seek that at all future meetings, only Town
resident's be allowed to speak and make presentations.
2. There have been several public letters to either blog sites or the Los Gatos Weekly Times
which have stated numbers and statistics which are not supported by the most reputable
sources, or the statistics have been stated without proper context. For example, the
number of dog bites occurring in the U.S. per year has no reference as to where the dog
bites occur. As you can see from citation #1 below, the primary site or location of dog bites
is in the home of the dog owner.
3. The largest city in the U.S., New York City, has a very successful and widely emulated
Dogs Off Leash program that could be a model for Los Gatos. See citation #2 below.
4. We have a large group of residents of Los Gatos who are among the highest utilizers of
the parks in Los Gatos. There has previously been no provision made for dog owners to
utilize parks except by leashing their dogs.
5. There are many people who for one reason or another fear dogs, people of other races
and /or ideas with which they are uncomfortable. These fears do not mandate that we
eradicate every source of the fears. In fact, the Facist regimes of the world have employed
this reasoning to create some of the most heinous acts in human history.
6. The group of residents of Los Gatos in favor of dog's off leash is attempting to create
equality for the usage of parks for all residents of Los Gatos. Excluding young children, is
just as upsetting to parents as is the exclusion of dogs to dog owners.
Citation #1:
Source: http: / /www.dogbites.org/
• The scene of attack is home or a familiar place. The majority of dog attacks (61 %) happen
at home or in a familiar place
• Dogs bite family and friends. The vast majority of biting dogs (77%) belong to the victim's
family or a friend.
• When a child less than 4 years old is the victim, the family dog was the attacker half the time
(47 %), and the attack almost always happened in the family home ( 909 , 6 1 ).
Citation #2: http: / /www.nycoffleash.com /html /FAQ.htm
There have been many objections to the pilot program which employ emotion, unsupported
data and the contentious statements without any substantiation. I have researched these
issues and the above reference provides objective evidence to counteract the complaints.
I am happy to discuss the validity of my or other's claim at any time and at any
place. Please contact me if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
Jeffrey S. McClanahan, M.D.
J.S. McClanahan, M.D.
408 - 205 -5301
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From: Jo Webb < career coach@mac.com
Date: Monday, May 7, 2012 3:18 PM
To: "Stephen M. Rice" < srice@Iosgatosca.gov >
Subject: Off Leash Pilot
Dear Mr Rice,
My husband and I have recently moved to Los Gatos from the UK and are very pleased to hear that
there are plans for a pilot 'off - leash' program in the town, in particular in Live Oak Manor Park. We
would like to support such a move very strongly.
Our Cavalier King Charles spaniel loves chasing her ball but has found her movements severely restricted
once arriving in the US. In the UK it is standard for dog owners to have their dogs 'under voice
control'; there are not many areas where they must be on a leash and we have 'right to roam' in most
places.
Although I totally understand and share people's concerns about dog poop I can assure you that we are both
actively concerned to maintain the policy of picking up after one's pets and to monitor the behavior of fellow
dog- owners. We feel that there are irresponsible owners (just like there are irresponsible parents) but that
overall the positive benefits of limited 'off-leash' activity would outweigh any disadvantages.
Sincerely,
Jo Webb and James Field
130 Greendale Drive, Los Gatos, CA 95032
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From: James Field Ofieid @me.com]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 3:20 PM
To: BSpector
Subject: Off Leash Pilot
Dear Ms. Spector,
My husband and I have recently moved to Los Gatos from the UK and are very pleased to hear that
there are plans for a pilot 'off - leash' program in the town, in particular in Live Oak Manor Park. We
would like to support such a move very strongly.
Our Cavalier King Charles spaniel loves chasing her ball but has found her movements severely restricted
once arriving in the US. In the UK it is standard for dog owners to have their dogs 'under voice control';
there are not many areas where they must be on a leash and we have 'right to roam' in most places.
Although I totally understand and share people's concerns about dog poop I can assure you that we are
both actively concerned to maintain the policy of picking up after one's pets and to monitor the
behavior of fellow dog- owners. We feel that there are irresponsible owners (just like there are
irresponsible parents) but that overall the positive benefits of limited 'off - leash' activity would outweigh
any disadvantages.
Sincerely,
Jo Webb and James Field
130 Greendale Drive, Los Gatos, CA 95032
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From: Paul Bradbury ]°mailto:pwbrad(a0gmail.coml
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 6:07 PM
To: Town Manager
Cc: Jeffrey McClanahan
Subject: please help us help you
To the members of the Los Gatos Town council;
Thank you for taking a few minutes to consider our proposals for COHABITATION of dogs in the 3 parks
under review.
As a many year resident of Los Gatos and now a recent owner of a champion bred, show dog, please
consider the foillowing.
We spent ten years raising and showing dogs and now we seriously need space to be able to run our
dog, especially to keep her weight down.
I respectfully suggest that dogs can be controlled and are currently under considerable control
especially in the Live Oaks park.
Please come observe the dog & owners for yourselves and not just be influenced by the fear and the
apparent lack of education that I witnessed at the last information gathering meeting?
It was unfortunate that few were willing to hear OR cdonsider alternatives.
We respect the concern and fear that some famililies have about dogs and may be able able to reduce
that to some degree:
if you give us a chance.
A. Some of us are quite willing to have a "meet the dog" time.
Where under close supervision, children and parents can meet some of the dogs that frequent the parks
and (at least) BEGIN to learn to all get along and live together.
i.e., My dog has obtained her "good citizen certificate" from the AKC (American Kennel Club) Its a formal
test she passed demonstrating good behavior around people.
Not barking, not jumping and not taking sandwiches from children.
We often ask parents if they are ok with the dog OR are asked if the children can pet our dog.
B. Many of us have discussed and agreed to "leash up" the moment we see a child.
D. Others have volunteered to have certain hours be awarded (a time when NO children are even in
the park).
E. Many -Many of us already "pick up/ clean up" after our less responsible dog owners.
It is noteworthy that many instances are from dogs on leash as well as off leash. We have each others
back as we know and respect the privelage of sharing the park.
F. Fenced Dog parks are not the (only) answer;
In one well known park, there have been dog fights /injuries from non attentive owners, dogs not under
control AND the often most important overcrowded, confined areas.
people have stopped going there.
G.In another recently renovated park, there is minimal PAID parking
H. Many dog just dont run as much in a fenced in dog parkas when they are free.
There are frequenhtly just too many bodies in the fenced in dog parks
I. MOST Dogs need, and deserve, an opportunity to run free for a period of time to explore meet
/greet and play with other dogs, without interference.
With a COOPERATIVE effort by all, we can do this.
J. We have agreed to "communicate and "support" other dog owners in the park, This will reduce the
rangers time and efforts doing so.
Just give us the opportunity to work out a solution. .
There is no answer that will satisfy everyone as all of you so well know, but if we could only be given the
opportunity to meet with and work out a compromise, we will never know IF we all can do this.
There are many other topics to review and discuss, and I hope this plea for your help and support is well
recieved and taken under serious consideration.
Thank you for your time and attention.
Best regards,
Paul Bradbury
CEO & President
The Bradbury Group
408 - 309 -8095 cell
From: Stephen Daly < stephenmdalype @ yahoo.com
Reply -To: Stephen Daly < stephenmdalype @ yahoo.com
Date: Monday, May 7, 2012 11:09 PM
Subject: Proposed Trial Off -Leash Dog Hours
Hello,
I am a resident local to Live Oak Park and have been for 17 years. Originally I was going with my then
preschool daughters (now college & high school), more recently with my dog,. I look forward to
the possibility of a trial off -leash dog program.
I find that the people that use the park are very conscientious and considerate of the park and the park
goers.
I believe that having "limited hours of operation" plan will create something much better then the
typical dog park in that it will bring people together to help create a situation where the members know
one another, look out for each other, & look after one another and foster a sense if community bringing
neighbors together.
I strongly urge you to consider and a program for creating rules and times for off -leash program.
Thank you,
Stephen M Daly, PE
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From: Anne Kiernan [anne_kiernan @yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:52 PM
To: Steve Leonardis; Diane McNutt; BSpector; Steve Rice; Joe Pirzynski
Subject: Off Leash Dog Program in Los Gatos
Dear Los Gatos Council Members,
As a constituent of Town I feel very strongly that we should adopt the provisional program for dogs off
leash at the 3 parks in question. I would like to see the parks opened for off leash activities . This will
meet the needs of all users and allow a fair and equitable distribution of the Town's resources.
Thank you in advance for you consideration of this.
Sincerely
Anne Kiernan
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From: Priscilla Ryland [rylandpj @gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 3:07 PM
To: BSpector
Subject: Yes for off leash dogs
Hi Barbara,
Please Please vote to allow dogs off leash.... We are responsible citizens and as you stated at the
meeting this would be better than breaking the law.
Thank you
PJ Ryland
131 Wilder Ave
Los Gatos, CA 95030
408 865 1265
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On 5/8/12 3:53 PM, "Victor Farah" < vicfarah @comcast.net wrote:
>Dear Council Members:
>Live Oaks Park is an integral part of our community. It is a haven that
>is enjoyed by the entire community, serving as a playground, after
>school sports field, a place to sit and enjoy its beauty or read a
>book, and as a place where dog owners can enjoy their pets exercising
>and playing with other dogs.
>Since owning our dog, we have met and made new friends and acquaintances.
> We have become more involved with the care and maintenance of the park.
>We voluntarily police the park for everything from dog poop to broken
>bottles, soda cans and tossed papers.
>It would behoove all to see the community activity in this park on a
>weekend or evening. A virtual 'Norman Rockwell' slice of life if you
>will, with children in the playgrounds, dogs chasing frisbees, people
>strolling, picnics, soccer practice, parents playing catch with their
>sons and daughters, etc.
>We can achieve this cohabitation. Its about time that people be
>responsible, respectful, and caring for others. Will there be an
>incident? Will there be a problem? Yes, there probably will be at
>some point. But the real question is are people mature enough to take
>charge and be accountable, without having to involve or demand the Town
>to govern this or forbid that. Its time for us as community neighbors
>to take care of our community and each other.
>1 am a transplant from New York City. Believe me, if cohabitation in
>NYC parks can work, it can work in Los Gatos.
>1 advocate for the proposed program for off leash dog hours as a
>responsible person, parent and dog owner. I welcome the "meet and greet"
>proposal for children and dogs (it already happens on many occasions
>when I walk my dog in the park anyway!). I support community life in
>our parks for all to enjoy.
>1 look forward to the upcoming meetings.
>Regards,
>Victor Farah
>287 De Soto Drive
>Los Gatos
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From: Chris Daly < cadaly @verizon.net
Date: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 4:11 PM
To: "Stephen M. Rice" < srice @Iosgatosca.gov
Subject: "off leash" proposal
Mr. Rice,
I have attached a letter in support of the "off leash" proposal. I hope you will read it. I would also like to
thank you for your time and consideration regarding this issue. Have some time off leash at a couple of parks
would only make this area where we live even better.
Thank you,
Christine Daly
May 5, 2012
Dear Mr. Rice
I'm writing regarding the "off leash" proposal. I am a wife and mother of two and to complete our family
dynamic is a wonderful dog. I was at the first meeting at Van Meter School and I was very surprised
about the comments against this proposal. There seemed to be a big group pushing the fear factor and
also many people just angry about bad experiences with dogs. As a parent of course I want everyone
safe. I know the group that meets regularly at Live Oak they are very responsible, caring, respectful
people. They are people who live in the neighborhood and care for the park. We pick up trash, beer
bottles, dog poop, and fill in gopher holes. We take pride in the park, the neighborhood and the
community. We meet with our dogs and families when most people are not there, off hours when the
park is less populated. Our being there off hours helps police the park and deters unwanted social
activity and vandalism.
In most dog training books and information on line it states how important it is to socialize your dog.
Not just with other dogs but humans as well. Dogs need to run a lot, which is hard to do on leash.
Exercise helps keep dogs happy, more controllable and calm. Just like people who exercise produce
endorphins and endorphins make you feel happy, more balanced and calm.
I have had my dog at the fenced in dog parks and I find it hard to meet the same people.
There are many people who just run their dogs there after they get off work. The dog has been cooped
up all day and they think if they just let their dog run and play with other dogs that's all they need to do.
The groups that usually meet at the leashed parks really take the time to interact with their dog and the
other dogs; they are more attentive to the dog's behavior and activity levels, as well as taking the time
and effort in training their dogs. We try harder because we want to make it work, for everyone. Have
some clear defined hours, like early in the morning and later in the evening would be wonderful
community friendly thing to do.
Sincerely,
Christine Daly
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From: Harriet Lundquist < harrietcutts @verizon.net
Date: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 8:10 PM
To: Steve Leonardis < SLeonardis @losgatosca.gov >, Diane McNutt < dmcnutt @losgatosca.gov >, BSpector
< BSpector @losgatosca.gov >, "Stephen M. Rice" < srice @Iosgatosca.gov >, Joe Pirzynski
< JPirzynski @losgatosca.gov
Subject: Off Leash Dog Program in Los Gatos
Dear Los Gatos Council Members,
As a constituent of the Town I feel very strongly that we should adopt a pilot program for dogs off leash
at the 3 parks in question. I would like to see the parks opened for off leash activities . This will meet
the needs of all users and allow a fair and equitable distribution of the Town's parks
Thank you in advance for you consideration of this.
Sincerely,
Harriet Lundquist
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From: Rodriguez, Linda [ mailto :lindar(abserenogroup.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:38 PM
To: Town Manager
Subject: Off Leash Pilot Program
To: Greg Larson
I am a long time Los Gatos resident. I have lived in the Bachman Park neighborhood for over 15 years and, I am a
dog owner.
For the past four years I have joined the group that meets at Bachman Park in the evenings with our dogs, off
leash.
Consistently over the years many of the children and parents in the park have come over from the children's play
area to pet the dogs and enjoy their company. All members of this group take pride in the park and clean up after
their dogs and are very careful not to let their dogs in the children play area.
I am in favor of an Off -Leash Pilot program in Bachman Park for designated hours. All dog owners should take full
responsibility for the actions of their dogs, the maintenance of the areas designated for dogs and most importantly
be proactive with dog owners that have unsuitable dogs off leash.
In addition, I am in favor of the off -leash program being limited to the dog owners within the neighborhood of
each park. A tagging system should somehow be a part of the program. I feel strongly that if this is not enforced
each park will be negatively impacted with dogs and dog owners from outside of Los Gatos.
I hope that the City Council gives the responsible dog owners of Los Gatos the opportunity to test this off leash
program.
Thank you,
L ndavS. Rodwtgaek
408-234-6083
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From: Je Delwat @comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:04 AM
To: Town PPW
Subject: Dogs
Yes for off leash
Sent from my Whone
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From: Leesa Gidaro fmailto :leesa.gidaro(abgmail.com1
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 7:31 PM
To: Diane McNutt; BSpector; Steve Rice; Joe Pirzynski; Town Manager
Cc: Leesa Gidaro
Subject: Dogs in our Parks!
Dear Town of Los Gatos Officials,
I am writing you to express my support for an off leash program within the Town of Los
Gatos.
However, I believe we would ALL prefer the status quo over any proposal currently on the
table, and there was overwhelming support for this by both proponents and opponents
during the community meeting last night. That said, I would make the following points:
- As a dog owner, I have seen first hand that organized groups are far more likely to
properly supervise their dogs, and care for our community parks.
- As an active user of Bachman Park, I can attest to the fact that dog owners create is far
less vehicular traffic than those who frequent the park for other activities. Parents,
children, and members of organized sports organizations (such as Tai Chi) often show up in
cars, while dog owners visit the park while out walking the dog.
- As a resident of Los Gatos, I've also seen firsthand that dog owners far outnumber other
park users at Bachman on a daily basis. On any given day (during the school year) the park
is virtually empty, with the exception of dog owners and their dogs. They are the highest
utilizers of Bachman, and as tax payers should be afforded the same recreational use of our
public parks as anyone else. My hope is that town officials would prefer to see this segment
of the population of Los Gatos utilizing our public spaces rather than an empty park every
morning and early afternoon!
Please, let's adopt more progressive practices and ensure Los Gatos does not continue to
lag behind other communities across the country with outdated views on off leash dogs.
Sincerely,
Leesa Gidaro
Cell: 408 605 -0075
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From: 7Seas (Comcast Mai)I [kian @7seasimport.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:28 PM
To: BSpector
Subject: Off Leash Program
Dear Barbara,
Thank you for your effort in trying to resolve the current dilemma with the off leash dog issue at Los Gatos
and Monte Sereno. As with many issues in life, there are forces of competing interests at work, one side
that demands total safety and security at the parks while on the opposite sides, dog owners are
demanding freedom to have their dogs off leash without breaking the law.
I support the implementation of an adequate off leash program at the parks in Los Gatos and Monte
Sereno, which aside from providing a needed open space for dogs to exercise, it would also decriminalize
that activity of many good residents that have been marginalized as outcast in the eyes of the authorities.
As for the safety issues for having dogs off leash, I believe the answer could easily be obtained by
studying the reported incidents involving dogs in the cities that have implemented similar programs. I do
not know the answer to this questions but common sense would suggest that there would not be much of
an up tick in these reports.
On many occasions, my children and I have enjoyed the companies of other fine dog owners in the early
evening at Bachman Park. While the dogs share a playful time off leash with other dogs, the greater joy to
us have been a sense of connection to our neighbors and community. As such venues, where neighbors
gather and community strengthen, becomes less practical in our time, it would be especially a sad loss if
it falls victim to excessively cautious regulation. There are no ordinances or regulations that city council
can enact to forge neighborly relationships and build a community, it is simply not within its purview. But
you do have a chance to protect and enable these assemblies where such relationships are fostered and
in doing so, add a little joy to our four legged residence. I hope your final decision would address such a
need.
Thank you and with much respect,
Kianfar Kianian
408 402 5330
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From: Laura Howard < Iaurgome@vahoo.com >
Reply -To: Laura Howard < laurgome @vahoo.com
Date: Saturday, May 19, 2012 12:28 PM
To: Diane McNutt < dmcnutt @los atosca.gov >, BSpector < BSpector @losgatosca.gov >, Steve Leonardis
< SLeonardis @losgatosca.goy >, "Stephen M. Rice" < srice @Ios atg osca.gov >, Joe Pirzynski
<JPirzynski @losgatosca.gov >, Town Manager <Manager @losgatosca.gov>
Subject: Off Leash Hours at Los Gatos Parks
Dear Town Council:
(1) As residents of Los Gatos, we support off -leash hours for dogs and urge the Town Council to
approve the pilot program currently under consideration.
(2) The Town has purchased a small piece of property on Ditto Lane that has no heavy vehicular access,
but it does have easy pedestrian and bicycle access from Ditto or from the adjoining trail. Since that
property was purchased over market value -- apparently with Council's or Town Developer's consent but
without notice to the citizen's of the Town - -we suggest that that property's use be for the citizens as a
park and an off -leash area.
Sincerely,
Laura Howard and Gene Faucher
35 College Avenue
Los Gatos, CA 95s030
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From: Mark Wainwright Finailto:mlwainwright@mac.coml
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 2 :45 PM
To: Diane McNutt; BSpector; Steve Rice; Joe Pirzynski; Town Manager
Subject: off leash hours for dogs
Dear Town Council:
As a resident of Los Gatos, I strongly support off leash hours for dogs and urge the Town Council to approve a pilot
program currently under consideration. In my experience near Bachman Park, dog owners have been very
responsible for cleaning up after their dogs and for keeping the dogs separate from the children's play area.
Sincerely,
Mark Wainwright
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On 5/22/12 9:25 PM, "mpb2419" < mpb2419 @gmail.com wrote:
>DearTown Council,
>1 have been a dog owner and resident of Los Gatos for the past ten years.
> During the past two years I have taken my dog on extended walks where
>I've met dozens of responsible dog owners, also Los Gatos residents.
>Most of the time during my extended walks I have found area parks
>nearly deserted. At these times I've taken the opportunity to let my
>dog off leash where he is free to run in a restricted area well away
>from children's play areas and /or people that wish not to deal with dogs.
>Despite how the Council rules on this issue, I will continue this
>practice at the risk of a citation.
>What I would propose is what makes a good community a great community:
> reasonable compromise. Such a compromise may take into account times
>and areas of a park when these parks /areas are not populated by
>children or others not wishing to encounter well trained /behaved dogs.
> My suggestion is Sam until 9am and then 5pm until 7 pm that dogs be
>permitted to run in specifically designated areas of certain parks.
> These are times I have personally noticed an absence of people, save
>dog owners, at most park areas.
>1 also suggest accountability in the way of an Off Leash Dog Alliance
>that would issue photo identification of owner and licensed dog through
>Los Gatos Monte Sereno Police Department at the full expense of the Off
> Leash Dog Alliance members. Suggested regulations to this membership
> might include:
> -Areas of dog play be restricted to at least three hundred feet from
>any obvious (sandbox /jungle gym) children's play area.
>- signed agreement by all members that would include provision of up to
>date inoculation records of all dogs wishing to participate. This
> agreement would include a provision to hold the City of Los Gatos
>harmless and would thus hold the owner of any participating member
>absolute and complete responsibility for the behavior of the dog in
>their possession.
>- membership in the Off Leash Dog Alliance be residents of Los Gatos.
> -a committee to investigate any /all complaints of citizens regarding
>dogs in violation of any policy /procedure agreements set in place by
>the City Council, comprised of members of the Council, Off Leash Dog
> Alliance, and at large members of the concerned community.
>Just an idea so that we might find a a reasonable compromise. Thank you
>for your time.
>Michael Brown
> Monte Sereno
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From: Leslie jmai Ito: cree56(cbcomcast.netl
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:26 PM
To: BSpector; Steve Leonardis; Steve Rice
Cc: Diane McNutt; Joe Pirzynski; Town Manager
Subject: Off Leash Hours - Yes Please
Hello,
I am a resident of the Bachman Park neighborhood.
Please approve the pilot program which you are currently exploring.
have been here for the past 27 years and have always enjoyed walking my current and past
dogs off leash.
I have not seen any dog fights or problems with children at any time.
I have met many lifelong friends and so has my dog.
Please record my vote in favor of off leash hours.
Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions.
Leslie Holms
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From: Anne Kiernan < anne kiernan @vahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 9:34 AM
To: Dorrie Romero < DRomero @losgatosca.gov >, " gcsparrow @comcast.net < gcsparrow @comcast.net >,
" bra nt@browsersys.com " < brant @ browse rsys.com >, Christy Wolter < CWolter @losgatosca.gov >,
" edpurchases @comcast.net < edpurchases @comcast. net >, " garrettpainter @aol.com
< garrettpainter @aol.com >, " jon a lambert yahoo.com < jon a lambert @yahoo.com >,
" shylo51095 @yahoo .com < shylo51095 @yahoo.com >, " kdeloumi @yahoo.com
< kdeloumi @yahoo.com >, " robrennie3 @aol.com < robrennie3 @aol. com >, " sandylgordon @vahoo.com
< sandylgordon @yahoo.com >, Todd Capurso < tcapurso @losgatosca.gov >, Steve Leonardis
< SLeonardis @los atg osca.gov >, Diane McNutt < dmcnutt @losgatosca.gov >, BSpector
< BSpector @losgatosca.gov >, "Stephen M. Rice" < srice @losgatosca.gov >, Joe Pirzynski
< JPirzynski @losgatosca.gov
Subject: Bachman Park Off Leash Support Group Letter
Dear Los Gatos Council Members and Parks Commissioners and Staff
Please find attached a letter signed by many of the Bachman Park Off leash support group which we
would kindly ask you to take into consideration when deciding on the Los Gatos Off Leash Program.
Thank you in advance for your consideration of this matter.
Sincerely,
The Bachman Park Off Leash Support Group
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Prom: Terry McBriarty [tmcbriarty@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 8:00 PM
To: Council; Town PPW
Subject: Off Leash Dog Park - A Mom w /kids and a dog who would like PM hours
Terry McBriarty
15075 Garden Hill Drive
Los Gatos California 95032
To Whom It May Concern:
I am writing with regards to the proposal of the off leash hours at Live Oak Manor and /or
Bachman Park in Los Gatos California following my attendance of two out of three of the
community meetings and the Parks Commission meeting on June 5th. I was unable to
attend the first meeting at Van Meter at which apparently the first and only poll was taken as
to who was in support of and who was against the off leash pilot program.
I am a mother of two boys. One born in 2005 and the other in 2006 and have lived in Los
Gatos or the vicinity prior to their birth. When they were very young I was at Bachman Park
at least one day a week 2006 -2008. 1 was there as part of an organized playgroup through
Las Madres, so there was a regular group of us in attendance. One of our group members
lived very close to the park. I became aware during that time of the off leash dogs at the
park. At first I was concerned about the off leash dogs but over time as I could see that the
dogs were generally well behaved and not interested in the children but in the other dogs I
had no problem with the off leash dogs. The dogs ran off leash in a large area on the grass
and if the children wanted to venture into the area where the dogs were one of the mothers
would go and supervise the children or redirect them back to the sandbox or play
structure. I don't remember any negative incidents occurring in my years there. My friend
who lived near the park and had two children (the same ages as mine) never expressed any
concern over the off leash dog behavior. I mention this because she went to Bachman
twice a day for about three years during that period of time. I understand that there has
been a vocal group of mothers who have complained about the off leash dogs and that
some of the Park Commissioners have gone to Bachman and expressed concern that
people have been "frightened" of a dog or knocked over but to me this is part of sharing the
park and the self - righteousness of the people who have children and believe that they are
more entitled to use the park than those with dogs offends me. Some people have children
and some people do not. Some people have dogs. I do not think that the dog owners are
asking too much in asking for a few hours a day. Perhaps 1.5 hours in the AM and 1.5
hours in the PM to start and the hours could be expanded if they work. 9- 10:30AM
and 5:30 -7PM perhaps. Compromise. Sharing. Cooperation. Community.
I live within walking distance of Live Oak Manor park and would love to be able to walk my
dog there and be able to play fetch with her or watch her play with other dogs and interact
while my children are able to play safely in an area that is appropriate for them. This is not
poinp to be possible if only the voices of the people who want separation of children
and dogs is being heard. NOT EVERYONE WANTS THIS. Just because these people
are the noisiest doesn't mean that they are the majority. I am offended by the manipulative
fear mongering that has gone on at the meetings and the position that these fears "must be
addressed." Really? Dog bites happen that is true. No one is denying that at all but there
is no increased correlation between off leash dogs and biting behavior. In fact the opposite
has been found to be true.
My Mom friends with dogs at Van Meter ask me when the the off leash dog hours will be up
and running so we can have a playdate with the dogs and the kids at the park. We won't be
able to do this if only morning hours are approved. Perhaps the council could look at a
schedule that would be MWF and Tues /Thur to allow AM and PM hours at each park? I
know that this suggestion will be easily thrown under the bus as "too confusing and
complicated" but especially those of us with children are used to juggling complicated
schedules and those with dogs are already used to dog park closures. The Parks
commission had discussed cancelling off leash hours in the event of a birthday party or
large event so it seems that perhaps the pilot program should have some more flexibility
than is currently planned to be built into it. We are planning in June but I am not sure when
the program would actually commence. Hours that will work in June, July and August won't
work in December when the parks will be in total darkness so the pilot program seems like it
perhaps would need to be a little more flexible.
So many concerns arose out of the community meetings and some on the Parks
Commission felt that all these issues needed to be addressed before a pilot program could
be addressed. For instance the problem with dog waste at Bachman. No matter what
happens with this program there will always be irresponsible owners and those of us who
are responsible cannot control or be faulted for the behavior of those owners who are
irresponsible, though numerous responsible owners have stepped forward to try to make
owners responsible for their dogs. The off leash dog program shouldn't be responsible for
all that is wrong with dogs in Los Gatos.
Several people complained about their dogs behavior while one leash towards off leash
dogs. This is actually due to poor socialization of their own dog and if they have a poorly
socialized dog they should not walk them during the off leash hours.
http: / /www.aspcabehavior.org /articles /155 /Dogs -W ho- Are - Reactive -on -Leash. aspx
So much has been made of the danger to children being bitten but they are actually much
more likely to hurt themselves by falling at the playground.
http: / /www.aspcabehavior.org /articles /57 /Doq- Bite - Prevention -.aspx
In New York dog bites actually dropped off considerably with the implementation of off leash
hours.
http://www.nycoffleash.com/htmi/index2.htm
While there are presently off leash dog parks available there are not very many and they
are often very crowded at the peak hours. When they are very crowded they are often
crowded with larger more aggressive dogs which is uncomfortable for mid -sized easy going
dogs. I have witnessed many a problem at the Campbell dog park and as much as I think it
would make us sound very stuck up if we set up some kind of program to limit our to Los
Gatos residents or to specially grant permission to dogs to be off leash I think that would
ensure the success of the program. This would be something beyond just requiring they be
licensed in Los Gatos but evaluating each dog for appropriateness for being off
leash. People would of course have to pay for this service. I would be more than willing to
do so. I would love to bring my dog to a dog park where I know that all of the dogs have
been evaluated and have been determined by a qualified individual to not be aggressive
and to be appropriate for off leash behavior.
http: / /www.bouldercolorado..qov /files /openspace /pdf brochures /vs -doq- brochure pdf
I also would like to see the council to explore a location in Los Gatos for a dedicated fenced
dog park in addition to approving this pilot program. Los Gatos is a town with 9,000 dogs
and those dogs have varying needs some of which would be met by off leash hours at their
neighborhood parks while others need a fenced park not because they are dangerous but
because they are just a little too unpredictable and might just run off. If a site could be
identified and a budget set perhaps organizations could help with fundraising to build and
maintain the dog park as I know there are a lot of people who would really like to see this
dog park happen. I was at Oak Hill Play Lot today which I once again found littered with
cigarette butts. There is a large cement area and a large dirt area that do not seem to have
any discernible use and could easily be fenced and used for off leash dogs. Perhaps
increased use of the park would cut back on people drinking and smoking at the park. Of
course at a small park of this size we would want to limit it to Los Gatos residents only, but
even with our limited space available it is possible to find spots for enclosed dog parks if
you care to look for them. Another option is to enclose the children's play areas at Live Oak
and Bachman so that the children would be safe from any dogs running amuk. 1, for one,
loved enclosed parks when I had younger children because you knew they they wouldn't be
wandering off.
Please do not listen to the fear mongering people who apparently write letters and attend
meetings for fun but don't actually go to the park very often. The meetings were attended
by many people, some of whom hadn't even been to any of the parks! People who sit at
home and write letters or complain at meetings should not dictate the behavior of people
who go to parks on a daily basis. These people who use the park on a daily basis deserve
some sort of compromise in some hours for sanctioned off leash use.
Sincerely,
Terry McBriarty
Van Meter Mom of 2
Terry McBriarty
tmcbriarty @gmail.com
tmcbriarty @comcast.net
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From: " gcsparrow comcast.net < cg sparro @comcast.net
Date: Thursday, June 7, 2012 6:44 AM
To: BSpector < BSpector @losgatosca.gov >, Joe Pirzynski < JPirzynski @losgatosca.gov >, Diane McNutt
<dmcnutt @losgatosca.gov >, Steve Leonardis <SLeonardis @los atg osca.gov >, "Stephen M. Rice"
< srice @losgatosca.gov
Subject: Dogs Off Leash
Councilmembers:
I moved to accept the staff proposal to the council and got 5 votes.
I am rather neutral on this subject, although rabid on the subject of dog excrement.
Every time I go up St Josephs, I pass (and usually pick up) at least 3 or 4 bags of dog poop that have been left
on the trail (probably by owners of dogs on the leash). There are also several piles of poop just left on the
trail.
I would request that if you do initiate the pilot, that you consider what you will do if it is not honored. le, if
dog groups /individual owners do not adhere to the
proposed off leash hours, poop scooping, etc. The blindness of people to the obnoxious behavior of their
dogs is unbelievable.
It took me personally months to get it that my yippy chihauhua mix (don't ask) was driving my neighbors
crazy.
From my own informal polling, most people are against the idea. However, you have an untenable situation,
and the pilot might be the best solution to put this
puppy to bed.
I found this article about what is going on in Vancouver, a hotbed of DOL controversy. There are lots of links,
but I think worth your time.
htt : w ww.vancouversun.com /life/ Left +leash +dogs +bites +worse+ than+ their +barks /6551504 /story.htmI
Barbara Holden, Parks Commissioner