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Attachment 3 - Public Comment1-15-22 Dear Town Council, The LGCA is writing to you to express our recommendation regarding Agenda item #10 – Cannabis Consultant Services. Recommendation We recommend not to proceed with spending $50,000 to retain a consultant to perform a cannabis fiscal analysis given 60% of the respondents to the Town’s survey opposed/strongly opposed such a measure (see attached survey result). When deducting those opposed from those supporting, this leaves a net negative percentage of 22%. Given this very strong anti-cannabis sentiment, the Town Council should expect a highly contested election if a Cannabis Sales Tax Initiative is placed on the ballot. It would require the approval of voters to impose any sales tax. Such an overwhelming negative level strongly suggests that a cannabis sales tax initiative would lose by a very large margin. Spending the public’s money for a fiscal analysis of a cannabis sale tax measure, which is highly likely to be rejected by voters, is a waste of public funds. Background It is important to remember the suggestion to examine the commercial sale of cannabis did not arise from the public during the Council Priority Setting Session. In fact, of the 175 suggestions for new priorities submitted by the public as part of last year’s Priority Setting Survey (see attached), no one from the public put forth a suggestion to change the municipal code to allow for the commercial sale of cannabis. This work stream was put forth by the then Town Attorney as part of his 2021 priorities. A Commercial Cannabis Operations and Facilities Ordinance was listed as #7 on the Town Attorney’s recommended list of municipal codes that “needed updates”. The stated reason for pursuing this workstream was solely for the additional sales tax revenue that could be levied on the commercial sale of cannabis. To further justify the workstream, the Town Manager noted that the priority would be “consistent with the council priority of Prudent Financial Management”. Based on the Town Attorney’s recommendation, Council then directed Staff to seek public opinion on this issue. The public has clearly spoken – they are strongly opposed. Discussion Given the survey results, we are bewildered by the Staff’s recommendation to spend $50,000 to hire a consultant. The notion of performing a fiscal analysis of cannabis sales taxes is doubly troubling at this time given the tremendous uncertainty with respect to the tax and regulatory framework that has been introduced in Governor Newsom’s budget proposal. In his proposal, he states that he, “supports cannabis tax reform and plans to work with the Legislature to make modifications to California's cannabis tax policy to help stabilize the market.” These modifications are widely understood to mean a significant reduction in cannabis taxation, which would make a fiscal analysis at this time premature at best, and probably meaningless in the final analysis. ATTACHMENT 3 If the Town truly has $50,000 available to spend, the LGCA recommends that this money be spent on hiring a consultant to do a fiscal impact analysis (FIA) of the 2040 General Plan. The LGCA survey of 400 voters in Los Gatos regarding the draft 2040 General Plan shows 87% support/strongly support a FIA (see attached). The net support for a FIA is an overwhelming positive 78% compared to a negative 22% on the commercial sale of cannabis. The LCGA has repeatedly made the recommendation to Staff to complete a FIA of the 2040 General Plan prior to adoption. Many cities in California routinely perform a FIA as part of the general plan approval process to fully inform the Town Council and public of the revenue, expenditure and capital investment impacts flowing from the adoption of a 20-year plan. Our recommendation has been repeatedly rejected, citing the lack of funding for a FIA. We believe the Town cannot afford not to do such an analysis, especially given that the draft 2040 General Plan calls for a 30% growth in the Town’s population. Conclusion We respectfully ask the Council to not proceed with the Staff recommendation and instead instruct the Staff to retain a consultant to perform a FIA for the 2040 General Plan. This is a much higher use of public funds and would greatly benefit the public in understanding the fiscal impact of the draft 2040 General Plan. Thank you for your consideration. Los Gatos Community Alliance Strategic Priorities SurveyMonkey 6 / 18 #FIRST CHOICE DATE 1 Keep the town beautiful to attract business and people: Roads, sidewalks, bridges in perfect condition 1/4/2021 2:25 PM 2 fire abatement 1/4/2021 11:43 AM 3 Traffic/Parking 1/4/2021 9:40 AM 4 vitalize n santa cruz st 1/4/2021 9:17 AM 5 Fire Safety 1/3/2021 10:29 AM 6 Fire Protection 1/3/2021 7:24 AM 7 Streamline the Planning process for fire-safe building applications 1/2/2021 6:01 PM 8 Fire Protection 1/2/2021 4:10 PM 9 Emergency preparedness 1/2/2021 3:37 PM 10 Environmentally friendly town 1/2/2021 3:37 PM 11 Safety (including Fire)1/2/2021 3:24 PM 12 Economic vitality 1/2/2021 2:59 PM 13 Summer traffic 1/2/2021 2:51 PM 14 Fire Protection 1/2/2021 2:36 PM 15 Fire protection and prep 1/2/2021 2:11 PM 16 Fire Protection 1/2/2021 1:57 PM 17 Reduce taxes for residents 12/26/2020 7:51 PM 18 parking - you should turn the flat lot at tate and main to an underground parking, with 2 levels above ground. 12/26/2020 2:08 PM 19 Safety, how do emergency vehicles get through town with so much uncontrolled grid lock 12/24/2020 10:07 AM 20 Highway 17 and town beach traffic 12/19/2020 8:55 AM 21 A plan to save businesses during pandemic 12/18/2020 8:16 AM 22 Support community programs such as Rec department 12/17/2020 5:46 PM 23 create fire buffer areas between the town and the mountains 12/17/2020 5:37 PM 24 Traffic congestion 12/17/2020 1:05 PM 25 land use 12/17/2020 11:15 AM 26 Crime prevention 12/16/2020 9:09 PM 27 Climate change 12/16/2020 3:43 PM 28 Encourage dining and shopping. Ease rules and barriers of entry 12/16/2020 11:51 AM 29 Economic recovery 12/16/2020 10:01 AM 30 Identify what is most critical to make effective needed changes 12/14/2020 1:42 PM 31 Safe roads for school 12/12/2020 10:23 AM 32 Closing down North Santa Cruz Ave & Creating Pedestrian Mall 12/12/2020 7:35 AM 33 Down down life 12/11/2020 6:38 PM 34 Among current priorities consider strategic plan for senior issues 12/11/2020 10:52 AM 35 Racial, socio-economic diversity 12/10/2020 8:02 PM 36 Diversity 12/10/2020 5:20 PM 37 Continue the outdoor dining/ entertainment options even after COVID 12/7/2020 10:36 PM Page 25 Strategic Priorities SurveyMonkey 7 / 18 38 Parking for employees & customers 12/7/2020 9:43 PM 39 more bike lanes, sidewalks, and traffic management 12/6/2020 9:44 PM 40 Senior Citizen Accommodations & Services 12/6/2020 3:48 PM 41 Fire Prevention 12/5/2020 8:10 PM 42 More affordable housing 12/5/2020 12:23 PM 43 Racial equity and addressing issues with policing 12/5/2020 11:41 AM 44 Resolve Hiway 17 gridlock thru neighborhoods! Dangerous! Can’t get I out/in or move for 8 hrs- especially 1st-Tait & 2nd is Bayviee 12/5/2020 11:01 AM 45 Traffic reduction 12/5/2020 6:33 AM 46 Housing that is less expensive to built; modular.12/4/2020 9:31 PM 47 Beach traffic 12/4/2020 9:00 PM 48 No more high density projects! Deal with beach traffic!12/4/2020 6:29 PM 49 Clean our streets and entry way to our town 12/4/2020 2:11 PM 50 Hillside home fire protection and education, increase inspections and follow up for property owners who do not comply with the requirements 12/4/2020 1:35 PM 51 Fire Protection including Emergency Planning (earthquakes, etc.)12/4/2020 1:11 PM 52 downtown summer gridlock traffic!12/4/2020 12:02 PM 53 Developlment 12/4/2020 12:01 PM 54 NO MORE DEVELOPMENTS!12/4/2020 10:09 AM 55 Fighting state on giving back local control of housing & building in town. Use your community support. 12/4/2020 10:09 AM 56 retain green & open space 12/4/2020 10:07 AM 57 Less restrictive on property owners rights 12/4/2020 6:59 AM 58 Bring life to downtown 12/4/2020 6:24 AM 59 Economic recovery and small business support 12/4/2020 6:21 AM 60 dealing with summer traffic and shutting down North Santa Cruz on weekends 12/4/2020 6:20 AM 61 Summer Beach Traffic/Additional LaneLark-Hwy9 12/4/2020 6:15 AM 62 More toilets 12/4/2020 12:27 AM 63 Widen highway 17 and prevent traffic backup into town 12/3/2020 10:54 PM 64 Schools 12/3/2020 7:25 PM 65 Address climate change by promoting plant-based diets 12/3/2020 4:44 PM 66 Get rid of the parklets. What an eyesore. Horrible.12/3/2020 3:23 PM 67 Affordable low-income housing 12/3/2020 11:15 AM 68 Inclusive Community 12/3/2020 10:43 AM 69 Public safety unaddressed issues for glenridge area 12/3/2020 6:21 AM 70 Traffic 12/2/2020 8:47 PM 71 Fiscal sustainability - managing our debt 12/2/2020 4:13 PM 72 Support for Mental Health Services 12/2/2020 2:44 PM 73 Traffic 12/2/2020 2:33 PM 74 Parking 12/2/2020 2:06 PM 75 make it easier for businesses to do business in LG 12/2/2020 1:00 PM Page 26 Strategic Priorities SurveyMonkey 8 / 18 76 Fire prevention 12/2/2020 12:02 PM 77 What are they???12/2/2020 11:27 AM 78 Arts 12/2/2020 11:09 AM 79 Fire mitigation 12/2/2020 10:31 AM 80 Economic Vitality 12/2/2020 10:18 AM 81 low income transportation 12/2/2020 10:08 AM 82 Honest disclosure or pension and healthcare costs and more transparency on labor negotiations. 12/2/2020 9:05 AM 83 Disallow conversion of residential property to commercial 12/2/2020 8:56 AM 84 Environmental impact 12/2/2020 8:52 AM 85 When considering transportation and traffic issues please consider drivers at a higher level than bicyclists as drivers are paying for the roads through DMV and we follow the laws. 12/2/2020 8:50 AM 86 Safety & Security, enhanced police protection plans, resources, and community communication for protests or riots and associated crimes 12/2/2020 7:56 AM 87 crosswalks & stop signs added and upgraded 12/2/2020 7:41 AM 88 Help local restaurants and business most impacted by shutdown 12/2/2020 2:33 AM 89 Summer Traffic should be addressed 12/2/2020 12:23 AM 90 This town needs a dedicated emergency communications and warning system like other communities. SCCAlerts are not remotely sufficient if / when wildfires break out in downtown. It’s just a matter of time given our location, climate change and few roads in/out of town. . 12/1/2020 10:24 PM 91 Traffic 12/1/2020 8:55 PM 92 Climate change mitigation and adaptation 12/1/2020 8:50 PM 93 diversity and inclusivity 12/1/2020 8:18 PM 94 Emergency preparedness 12/1/2020 8:01 PM 95 Support small business, not chains; climate change policy 12/1/2020 7:59 PM 96 Build a bridge or tunnel to increase the flow of pedestrians and bikers from Safeway side of town to downtown. The bridge should be between Double D's and Flights over to the parking area toward the Tesla charging lot behind Starbucks. The lights take WAY too long at HWY 9 and University due to Caltrans control. The traffic is horrific on University from Vasona toward downtown since the turning lanes have been redone. 12/1/2020 7:31 PM 97 Affordable housing and more multi dwelling residential construction 12/1/2020 7:28 PM 98 control summer cut thru traffic it shuts down our town 12/1/2020 6:41 PM 99 Summer beach traffic clogging local streets on weekends 12/1/2020 6:32 PM 100 Set commercial rent limits or offer landlords tax incentives to reduce rents to reduce vacanciess 12/1/2020 6:28 PM 101 Homeless 12/1/2020 5:54 PM 102 A dedicated Pickleball Facility 12/1/2020 5:38 PM 103 drawing interesting and non-chain stores to the downtown core 12/1/2020 5:31 PM 104 land use 12/1/2020 5:12 PM 105 Implement a transparent, community-engaged review of the police use-of-force policy and bring transparency to police disciplinary issues. (e.g. Obama Foundation "Mayors Pledge") 12/1/2020 5:05 PM 106 Less bureaucracy for home owners to fix up their homes 12/1/2020 4:51 PM 107 CoVid Recovery 12/1/2020 4:29 PM 108 Re-vitalize downtown including replacement of the ugly concrete barriers on Santa Cruz Ave 12/1/2020 4:25 PM Page 27 Strategic Priorities SurveyMonkey 9 / 18 109 Energy efficiency 12/1/2020 4:23 PM 110 Fiber to the house 12/1/2020 4:23 PM 111 Covid safety- enforce mask mandate 12/1/2020 4:22 PM 112 train homeowners in fire mitigation 12/1/2020 4:20 PM 113 Fire & Disaster Preparedness & Managing Forest/Vegetation 12/1/2020 3:59 PM 114 Enforce existing ordinances 12/1/2020 3:53 PM 115 Seniors of our community need a center & activities like Saratoga/Campbell/Camden not combined with homeless 12/1/2020 3:49 PM 116 Urban Agriculture 12/1/2020 3:27 PM 117 Post Covid economic recovery 12/1/2020 3:23 PM 118 Dog Park 12/1/2020 3:16 PM 119 Economic Vitality (same)12/1/2020 3:08 PM 120 Attract more businesses/restaurants/stores not only high end 12/1/2020 3:02 PM 121 Make permanent the use of street front parking for restaurants. It added SO much to the energy and vitality of the downtown! 12/1/2020 2:56 PM 122 No new high density housing and associated traffic issues. The north 40 and Lark Ave is reprehensible. 12/1/2020 2:56 PM 123 Focus less on downtown 12/1/2020 2:40 PM 124 Emergency preparedness 12/1/2020 2:36 PM 125 Affordable housing in spaces were crowding is not an issue 12/1/2020 2:34 PM 126 Density 12/1/2020 2:33 PM 127 Summer traffic abatement 12/1/2020 2:27 PM 128 Address Traffic flow and weekend overflow 12/1/2020 2:25 PM 129 Smaller and more affordable housing units 12/1/2020 2:18 PM 130 Adopt a long-term view on future of transportation - E.g. underground light rail extension, electrification, accommodations for self driving vehicles, elimination of above ground parking, establishing pedestrian-only streets 12/1/2020 2:13 PM 131 Build Back Better as we get COVID-19 under control 12/1/2020 2:11 PM 132 Make LG more walkable; establish vehicle-free zones and roads 12/1/2020 2:09 PM 133 Deal with current event issues first 12/1/2020 2:08 PM 134 Open space 12/1/2020 2:08 PM 135 Transportation management 12/1/2020 2:00 PM 136 Economic Vitality 12/1/2020 1:58 PM 137 Economics - How to attract and keep businesses alive and well in town.12/1/2020 1:57 PM 138 Public safety 12/1/2020 1:54 PM 139 Economic 12/1/2020 1:46 PM 140 Hillside and Neighborhood preservation 12/1/2020 1:45 PM 141 Upgrade town services. Specifically police, code enforcement and parks services. Major overhall required. 12/1/2020 1:45 PM 142 Transportation 12/1/2020 1:44 PM 143 Landlord/Business Rental/Small Business rent control (we are losing xlnt businesss to other towns because our rents are too high) 12/1/2020 1:44 PM Page 28 Strategic Priorities SurveyMonkey 10 / 18 144 get flashing cross walks downtown like other towns do. it is extremely dangerous and you can't see people in the crosswalks in the rain. someone is going to lose their life to a driver who just can't see the person at night. 12/1/2020 1:35 PM 145 Transportation 12/1/2020 1:34 PM 146 Fire safety 12/1/2020 1:33 PM 147 Maintaining space for natural vegetation and animals 12/1/2020 1:27 PM 148 Eliminate in-town beach traffic.12/1/2020 1:27 PM 149 Fire safety 12/1/2020 1:24 PM 150 Parking solutions 12/1/2020 1:24 PM 151 Priority on summer traffic clogging our town, I see it's sandwiched in with cycle paths, pedestrian and public transport improvements, but who wants to ride their bike through clogged roads with cars pumping out pollution into the air and drivers putting cyclists lives in danger as they grow increasingly angry, we hear it downtown all the time, the endless angry horns. The summer traffic issue desperately needs fixing before any other issues can be put into place. 12/1/2020 1:24 PM 152 Making parklets permanent/ close santa cruz ave 12/1/2020 1:23 PM 153 intelligent approach to traffic management 12/1/2020 1:19 PM 154 Traffic 12/1/2020 1:14 PM 155 Pension reform, pensions will kill all other priorities 12/1/2020 1:14 PM 156 Economic Vitality 12/1/2020 1:10 PM 157 Defy Santa Clara County and Return Kids to School - Follow the Science 12/1/2020 1:08 PM 158 Emergency preparedness.12/1/2020 1:06 PM 159 Emergency preparedness 12/1/2020 1:06 PM 160 Traffic on LG Boulevard/Lark Avenue 12/1/2020 1:04 PM 161 keeping downtown alive 12/1/2020 1:04 PM 162 A nice, 1-floor senior homes complex (like Rinconada Hills)!12/1/2020 12:59 PM 163 Homeless encampments - address growing problems before it’s so bad it can’t be solved as in neighboring communities 12/1/2020 12:59 PM 164 Streamline and remove bloat from building and grading process 12/1/2020 12:59 PM 165 Reduce town traffic 12/1/2020 12:57 PM 166 Help support local bussiness's its very important to the towns continued growth 12/1/2020 12:54 PM 167 Pedestrian zone in the city center 12/1/2020 12:49 PM 168 Economic Vitality 12/1/2020 12:49 PM 169 Ditch building a parking structure dwtn 12/1/2020 12:48 PM 170 Transportation/Traffic/Parking Management especially during summer 12/1/2020 12:46 PM 171 Fire 12/1/2020 12:42 PM 172 Transportation Improvements 12/1/2020 12:27 PM 173 This may be under economic vitality, but having an active and thriving pedestrian friendly downtown will be the single greatest asset to bring residents and visitors. 12/1/2020 11:37 AM 174 Affordable housing 12/1/2020 11:37 AM 175 Beach traffic 12/1/2020 11:10 AM Page 29 21-8285 Los Gatos 2040 General Plan| 26 66% 66% 33% 26% 24% 23% 18% 16% 21% 19% 35% 27% 20% 25% 34% 28% 5% 3% 2% 3% 2% 4% 4% 3% 4% 6% 14% 13% 16% 16% 19% 23% 4% 7% 17% 31% 37% 32% 24% 29% 87% 85% 67% 54% 45% 48% 52% 45% 8% 13% 30% 44% 53% 48% 43% 52% +78 +72 +37 +10 -9 +0 +9 -7 Requiring a thorough fiscal impact analysis of the 2040 General Plan prior to adoption Requiring that the General Plan is approved by Los Gatos voters Locating future multi-family housing within walking distance to jobs, transit and retail Increasing the percentage of new housing that is below market rate Planning for more than 4,700 new residents over the next 20 years Planning for up to 2,000 new units of housing Planning for the amount of housing recommended by regional authorities Prioritizing housing development in the downtown area Strongly Support Somewhat Support (Don't Know) Somewhat Oppose Strongly Oppose Alternative General Plan Elements Q40-47. Finally, I am going to read you some alternative items that some people say should be included in the Los Gatos 2040 General Plan. Please tell me each you support or oppose each one. There is very strong support for a fiscal impact analysis and putting the plan to a vote. Locating multi-family housing near jobs and transit is popular, but all elements related to housing are divisive. Total Support Total Oppose Net Support Town of Los Gatos Commercial Cannabis Survey SurveyMonkey 3 / 33 24.26%230 12.97%123 3.38%32 8.65%82 50.74%481 Q2 In general, do you support or oppose allowing commercial cannabis businesses in Los Gatos? Answered: 948 Skipped: 3 TOTAL 948 0%10%20%30%40%50%60%70%80%90%100% Strongly support Support Neither support nor... Oppose Strongly oppose ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES Strongly support Support Neither support nor oppose Oppose Strongly oppose Page 134 EXTERNAL SENDER Dear Los Gatos Town Council, I am a 21 year old Los Gatos resident, and I’m in favor of allowing cannabis dispensaries in Los Gatos. I would like there to be a dispensary in town because I prefer being able to walk or drive short distances to do my errands, and I can get most of what I need in town, but cannabis is one of the few things I can’t get. Currently if I want to purchase cannabis, I would usually use delivery services, but if there was a dispensary in town, I wouldn’t have to do that. I’m sure there are many other Los Gatos residents like me who would want to be able to travel a shorter distance or not have to use delivery services to purchase cannabis. I saw the results from the survey and would like to provide my point of view on some of the comments people left on the survey against allowing dispensaries in town. For the people concerned about smell: I have been to the Airfield Supply dispensary in San Jose. While there is some smell of cannabis at this location, this would not be the case if a retail only dispensary opened in Los Gatos, as everything in the retail area is fully sealed and there is no consumption allowed on the property. All of the smell present at this location is from the cultivation. In terms of concerns about people smoking in town and causing there to be a smell in town from that, there is already a no smoking law in place that applies to marijuana as well as other things like cigarettes. Additionally, most residents who want to use marijuana are already getting it from other cities and then using it at home, so adding a dispensary to Los Gatos will probably not change how much cannabis is consumed in Los Gatos by very much. The biggest noticeable change to the town would likely just be more tax dollars coming in. For the people concerned about it influencing youth: It would be unlikely for the presence of a dispensary in town to cause middle and high school students to start using marijuana. I attended both Fisher Middle School and Los Gatos High School and can say that students know what weed is and if they want it they will find a way to get it, regardless of there being a dispensary in town or not. Also, students who consume weed are probably not getting it from dispensaries. First of all, just to enter the Airfield dispensary, you have to show your ID and it gets scanned. Then, inside, all the products are behind the counter or secured in a way that they can’t be shoplifted. In order to buy any products you have to show your ID again. This means it’s very difficult for someone underage to even step foot in a dispensary, let alone purchase or steal anything. Another comment I saw on the survey was that a dispensary should not be allowed in areas where youths hang out, giving 7-11 as an example. While I don’t have a strong opinion either way on this point, I would like to point out that 7-11 sells alcohol and alcohol is very accessible all throughout Los Gatos (7-11, bars, restaurants, grocery stores, etc.). Unlike a dispensary where you have to show your ID to enter and all the products are behind the counter, places like 7-11 and Safeway have alcohol out in the aisles and anyone can enter theses stores, meaning it’s very easy for teens to steal or purchase alcohol with a fake ID (because ID checks for purchasing alcohol are less intensive than for purchasing cannabis at a dispensary). Additionally, when comparing the impacts of alcohol versus marijuana on people, alcohol is much more damaging to the body (especially if the marijuana is consumed in an edible form rather than smoke). Alcohol is also much more addictive than marijuana and an overdose on alcohol can lead to death whereas consuming too much marijuana will not directly result in death. My point here is that alcohol is much more dangerous for youth to be consuming than marijuana, and if a dispensary opened in town it would be way more regulated than alcohol is in this town. In my opinion, this makes the concerns about the presence of a dispensary in town negatively impacting youth practically irrelevant. I also saw concerns in the survey comments that a dispensary would not be “classy” and would not fit the “Los Gatos culture.” To this, I go back to my points about alcohol. If you walk through downtown Los Gatos you’ll see bars, wine tasting rooms, and restaurants advertising alcohol. This displays the “culture” of Los Gatos as very alcohol centric. I’m not against having places that serve alcohol in town, but I don’t see how pushing drinking culture is any better than allowing a dispensary in town. Especially since a dispensary would only be for the sale of cannabis and not the consumption and would be less “in your face” than the places selling alcohol, I don’t thinkthe presence of a dispensary would strongly impact the culture of the town. I think the negative thoughts some people have towards marijuana and dispensaries likely come from misconceptions. I would encourage people who are against the opening of a dispensary to look into what a dispensary actually looks like and how it operates (maybe even go see one in person) and research the impacts of marijuana versus alcohol on a person’s body before forming a decision on whether or not to allow a dispensary in town. Sincerely, Julia Ristow From: Julia Ristow Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 10:04 PM To: Council <Council@losgatosca.gov> Subject: Cannabis [Town Council Item #10] To: Council <Council@losgatosca.gov> Subject: Marijuana Dispensary in Los Gatos EXTERNAL SENDER Dear Sirs/Madames, As a 34 year resident of Los Gatos, a downtown resident and a past President & Committee member of CASA I vote NO to allowing a Marijuana Dispensary in our town. How is it possible to support a long term, local & ‘home grown’ organization like CASA ( which the town has wholeheartedly endorsed & supported since its inception) and at the same time being in a drug dispensary? Is this only about the money? There MUST be another way. Joan Y Cross, CPM Los Gatos and Coronado From: Joan Cross Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 12:57 PM