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Attachment 3 - March 26, 2025, Planning Commission Verbatim MinutesLOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A P P E A R A N C E S: Los Gatos Planning Commissioners: Emily Thomas, Chair Kendra Burch, Vice Chair Jeffrey Barnett Susan Burnett Rob Stump Town Manager:Chris Constantin Community Development Director:Joel Paulson Town Attorney:Gabrielle Whelan Transcribed by: Vicki L. Blandin (619) 541-3405 ATTACHMENT 3 LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 2 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 P R O C E E D I N G S: CHAIR THOMAS: We will now move on the public hearings, starting with Item 2 on our agenda, which is to consider a request for approval to construct a new single- family residence and site improvements requiring a Grading Permit on vacant property zoned HR-1, located at 16497 South Kennedy Road, APN 532-17-038, Architecture and Site Application S-24-037. Categorically exempt pursuant to CEQA Guidelines Section 15303 (New Construction). Property owner is Robert Nicol, Applicant is Chris Spaulding, and Project Planner is Ms. Shoopman. Before the Staff Report, may I have a show of hands from Commissioners who have visited the property? I know we have one recusal. COMMISSIONER RASPE: Thank you, Chair. Based on the proximity of this property to my home, I need to recuse myself from this discussion. CHAIR THOMAS: Thank you. We will let you know when we are done. Are there any disclosures? Yes, Commissioner Stump. COMMISSIONER STUMP: I did speak with the neighbor at 16565 Vivian Drive while I was onsite. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 CHAIR THOMAS: Ms. Whelan, is there anything we need to follow-up with? ATTORNEY WHELAN: No, thank you. CHAIR THOMAS: Okay, thank you. Commissioner Burnett. COMMISSIONER BURNETT: Yes, I did speak as well to Ken Miller at the site. CHAIR THOMAS: Thank you. Ms. Shoopman, will you be providing the Staff Report tonight? JOCELYN SHOOPMAN: Yes, thank you. Good evening. Before you this evening is a proposal to construct a new two-story residence with site improvements requiring a Grading Permit on a vacant lot located at 16497 South Kennedy Road. The Applicant proposes to construct a 4,194 square foot, two-story residence with an attached garage. The residence includes 865 square feet of below-grade square footage that is not counted towards the FAR. The proposed residence would be the sixth largest in terms of floor area when compared to the immediate neighborhood, and the 14th largest in terms of FAR. Due to the constraints of the site, the Applicant is requesting the following exceptions from the Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines: grading depths in LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 4 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 excess of 4’ of cut and 3’ of fill; retaining wall heights in excess of 5’, and in excess of 50’ without a break; and siting of the building outside of the Least Restrictive Development Area. Discussion of each of these exceptions is provided in your Staff Report, but the Applicant states that due to the existing slope and limited areas of LRDA, there is no way for the proposal to comply with the referenced grading and retaining wall standards while also meeting the Santa Clara County Fire Department requirements. The consulting architect reviewed the project and provided two recommendations, which the Applicant implemented. Should the Planning Commission find merit in their request, Staff recommends that the Planning Commission approve the Architecture and Site Application subject to the recommended conditions included in Exhibit 3. There was a Desk Item that was distributed earlier today with additional public comments. This concludes Staff’s presentation and we are available for any questions. CHAIR THOMAS: Vice Chair Burch. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 VICE CHAIR BURCH: Ms. Shoopman, could you expand a little bit on the requirements for Fire, the turnaround and everything, and how that is actually impacting the retaining walls, so there is a little more context? JOCELYN SHOOPMAN: Under Santa Clara County there are specific slope requirements for the driveway, so the driveway slope cannot exceed five percent. Those requirements, in addition to the turnaround requirements themselves, are what is requiring the exceptions to retaining wall heights and to grading depths. CHAIR THOMAS: Commissioner Stump. COMMISSIONER STUMP: Can I ask for confirmation of the height of the structure? JOCELYN SHOOPMAN: The maximum is 20’ that is proposed. Under the Hillside Guidelines there is also a high to low maximum. The maximum is 30’, where I believe the Applicant is proposing 34’, so they comply with the Town’s requirements for height. COMMISSIONER STUMP: Chair, I’ve got two more questions, if that’s okay. Speaking of the Least Restrictive Development Area, this piece of property resulting from an SB 9 split is obviously very challenging, with very little in the way of Least Restrictive Development Areas. In this case, this LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 project is going to be 100% outside of the Least Restrictive Development Area. Can I assume that this is a fairly unique type of situation in our hillside? Only having been here for a couple months, 100% outside the Least Restrictive Development Area seems to be the extreme. JOCELYN SHOOPMAN: I can’t speak to all applications that the Town has processed, but we certainly have processed LRDA exceptions for hillside homes previously. I can’t speak to the 100% extent of the home, but there have been applications where those exceptions have been requested. COMMISSIONER STUMP: The follow-up question here is does an SB 9 lot split provide benefits or protections for properties that have serious development challenges like this? In other words, obviously the right to develop. ATTORNEY WHELAN: I would say SB 9 doesn’t address that specifically, but I would say in general takings laws does, and so if the Town has approved a lot, the Town doesn’t have the ability to deny any development whatsoever on the lot. The Town doesn’t have to approve any proposal, but something should be built in order to avoid a takings claim. COMMISSIONER STUMP: Then one final question, if I might, Chair. There’s a 90-year-old rock retaining wall LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 that comes within 20’ above the back of the building site and provides roadway support for Vivian Drive. Obviously, significant grading is being called for in this project. Could you briefly describe what mitigations or protections were built into the recommended Conditions of Approval as it relates to this wall? I realize the wall is not on the Applicant’s property, but just beyond it. JOCELYN SHOOPMAN: Thank you for that question. There are quite a few engineering Conditions of Approval that are going to look at the retaining wall and some additional site. Engineering Conditions of Approval #59 and #60 require the Applicant to provide a geological report prior to building issuance, which will do a comprehensive landslide investigation. In addition, Engineering Condition of Approval #66 requires that the Applicant conduct a walk-through with a PPW inspector before the start of construction to verify all existing conditions, and that the Applicant shall repair or replace existing improvements that are damaged during the construction. COMMISSIONER STUMP: Thank you for that. CHAIR THOMAS: Vice Chair Burch. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 VICE CHAIR BURCH: As a follow-up to that, if we wanted to add language in #66 that we would want to include the roadway in that public, because usually it’s streets that are damaged by the trucks, can we just add that type of language if that feels appropriate? JOCELYN SHOOPMAN: Should the Planning Commission wish so, they could. CHAIR THOMAS: Commissioner Burnett. COMMISSIONER BURNETT: I don't know if this would be the appropriate time, but that rock roadway is Los Gatos river rock, and if the owner of that property—because there is a large easement—would want to put that in the Historic Inventory as part of Los Gatos’ inventory. Many of our Los Gatos rock walls are in our inventory, and that would be a request that could be made to the owner of the property. DIRECTOR PAULSON: I think that was a question. This property owner is not responsible for the neighboring property. Staff can definitely reach out to the neighboring property and let them know that there is a process if they want to go through that, but that can’t be a provision of this decision. COMMISSIONER BURNETT: Oh, I thought the owner of this property owns that whole property there. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 VICE CHAIR BURCH: No, the retaining wall is not on this property. COMMISSIONER BURNETT: Okay, thank you. CHAIR THOMAS: Commissioner Barnett. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: That was going to be my question. There’s a dispute between the Applicant and an objecting neighbor about the ownership of that. How is the Town confident that it’s not on his property? JOCELYN SHOOPMAN: The Applicant provided a survey, that I believe was included in Exhibit 12, of this item, and that survey showed that the rock retaining wall is on an adjacent property. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: Thank you for that. CHAIR THOMAS: We’re good with Staff questions? Perfect. We will now open the public portion of the public hearing on Item 2 and give the Applicant an opportunity to address the Commission for up to five minutes, so whoever will be speaking on behalf of the Applicant, can you please come up to the podium and state your name for the record? Thank you. You’ll have five minutes. ROBERT NICOL: My name is Robert Nicol; I’m the owner of 16497 and I have filed the application to build a home at 16497 South Kennedy Road. I believe my architect, Chris Spaulding, is also on Zoom here as well. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 I’ve never been to one of these, so I’m not quite sure of the structure. Are you going to ask me questions and I answer them, or how does this work? CHAIR THOMAS: Basically, you have five minutes to address the Commission; then we have time to ask you questions; then we take public comment; you have another three minutes; then we will be able to ask you more questions; and then we close the public portion and we discuss and make a decision. ROBERT NICOL: Okay, no problem. DIRECTOR PAULSON: And Mr. Spaulding is online and able to speak, so if you’d like him to use some of that time, then just let him know. ROBERT NICOL: Working with Chris Spaulding, my architect, we have proposed to build a residence here in the hillside, and we have been met with several challenges. Number one was Fire and the 75’ turnaround that is requiring these retaining walls without that 50’ break, and increasing the cut and the fill. We have designed it to have a private fire hydrant to be installed. Also, to put in that 75’ turnaround for the firetruck to meet Santa Clara’s requirements, we also will improve Vivian Drive by increasing the traction on the road on the uphill incline LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 11 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 for if there were ever any issues with Fire to get a firetruck up the road. There has also been proposed to increase the entrance of the driveway from South Kennedy Road to Vivian Drive, and also, we have met and designed the proposed home to be within the heights as well as the LRV, which the color of the home will be, the height. We’re also asking for not the maximum, which is 6,000 square feet, which is allowed in the hillside, and we have worked around… And I also have reached out to all of the neighbors from whom I have had lots of feedback over the last week or two or so over letters and such, which I’m sure you’ve seen. I went to all of their doors, went and tried to discuss with them the proposed project. Basically, the plan that we’re looking at, as well as certain compromises to add additional plantings or trees, or to address and understand their concerns with the stonewall. Now, the stonewall, after looking at the survey, is not on my property, but I definitely understand their concerns, so we’ve discussed the stonewall, we’ve discussed privacy, we’re discussed the building footprint, and obviously this is my day to come before the Planning Commission and discuss all of this with you all, and LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 obviously the neighbors that are here as well, and I think that’s pretty much all I got. CHAIR THOMAS: Thank you. Are there any questions for the Applicant at this time? Commissioner Stump. COMMISSIONER STUMP: Thank you, by the way. The Town’s Consulting Architect made two recommendations. It appears the first recommendation related to roof overhang and has been incorporated. The second recommendation related to the two-story flat, downhill façade issue that has been addressed by cantilevering the middle floor out 18” between the balconies to break up the two-story section. Do you believe that this meets the spirit of the recommended change? ROBERT NICOL: Yes, I do, and Chris, can you speak to that? CHRIS SPAULDING: Yes. The two-story portion is just a very small width of the bulk of this house, about 25’ wide, so I think the overhang gives a nice shadow line and breaks up that wall adequately. COMMISSIONER STUMP: Thank you. CHAIR THOMAS: Commissioner Barnett. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: Yes, sir, thank you for coming in and for submitting the materials that you did. One of the comments from one of your neighbors, Mr. Bakshi, LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 13 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 suggested changes in the landscape plan to provide better privacy. I was wondering if you read that and have any comment about it? ROBERT NICOL: Would Mr. Bakshi be the downhill neighbor? Yes, so I believe on our landscape plan we have Toyon trees being planted down at that basement level to increase the amount of privacy, and that’s what was submitted on our landscape plan to take into note their concerns of the privacy. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: If I may, he was specifically asking for fast-growing trees, like Italian Cypress, Podocarpus, or similar species. ROBERT NICOL: I’m willing to take all of that into account. It’s just when we did the landscape plan, that’s what was currently on there. But, yes, I’m definitely willing to work with my neighbors to address their concerns. CHAIR THOMAS: Are there any other questions for the Applicant at this time? I do have one question, and that is that I understand this property is difficult to work with because of an average of 45-degree slope, but could you or your architect explain a little bit of how you decided to put the footprint of the house where you did? LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 14 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 CHRIS SPAULDING: I’ll take that. If you look at our Sheet A-3 of the packet, which is the LRDA drawing, you can see that the entire parcel is too steep to be in the LRDA, or forested, or has easements across it. There are three tiny, little sections of the LRDA that are less than 30% slope, isn’t in the dripline of a big tree, and is not in an easement. The total square footage of each of those little segments is only a couple of hundred square feet. So, there is really no possible way to put a building on this site and have it in the area that’s less than 30% slope. The next problem for siting is the requirement by the Fire Department to have a fire apparatus turnaround within 150’ of the house. We looked at the bottom of the property down where Kennedy Road meets South Kennedy. There’s currently a driveway that goes up from that corner. It's a very steep driveway and it has a hairpin turn immediately, which is nowhere near the Fire Department requirements of a 50’ inside turning radius. We looked at redoing that driveway, which is in the easement of the neighbor that owns that easement, so that would be one problem with redoing that driveway, but also to put in a turn that meets the requirements, and then also a fire apparatus turnaround, our retaining walls would LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 have been even larger than the site we ultimately ended up with, and those retaining walls would be visible from Kennedy Road and South Kennedy, whereas where we are sited now, those retaining walls are all hidden pretty much from anywhere; they would really only be visible from this site and a little bit from the downhill neighbor. Ultimately, there’s really only one possible location for the house, and that’s exactly where it’s sited. CHAIR THOMAS: Okay, thank you. Commissioner Burnett. COMMISSIONER BURNETT: Yes, and thank you for coming. Privacy is a big issue for, especially, the neighbors below your new home there. I know there have been requests for reduction in height, preservation of the trees for privacy, and enhancing new landscaping. Are there any window changes, or have you addressed… This is a great concern. ROBERT NICOL: I provided a presentation to show five different levels. One is from the basement level, one is from the first floor, one is from the second floor, the fourth one would be from the roof level, and the fifth one would be from the street level above the home, and you’ll be able to see, at least from my standpoint, the trees from LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 16 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 my property as well as the downhill neighbor blocking all the view from every single one of those five, so I’ll be able to provide that presentation after. COMMISSIONER BURNETT: Thank you for that. CHRIS SPAULDING: Can I add something to that, please? This is Chris Spaulding, the architect. On the downhill side of this property, on the adjacent neighbor’s property, there are mature oak trees, and they have been trimmed up from the ground, so actually the most visible portion of the new house from the downhill neighbor will actually be the basement level, because that’s down below the canopy of the mature oak trees. When you get up to the second and third levels where most of our windows are, mostly on the second level, those windows are pretty well blocked by the existing canopy. Most of new privacy planting is intended to fill in that gap at the bottom of the existing mature oak trees to block the view from the basement level down into the neighbor’s property, and I think Robert will have some pictures of that later in his rebuttal. Thank you. COMMISSIONER BURNETT: Thank you for that. CHAIR THOMAS: Okay, thank you. Now I invite comments from members of the public. If you have not LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 17 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 already turned in a speaker card to Staff, please do so at this time, or use the Raised Hand feature on Zoom if you wish to speak on Item #2. When you are called to speak, please state your name and address for the record, and you will have three minutes to make your comments. We will start with speakers in person, and the only card I have is actually for the Applicant. Is there anyone on Zoom? DIRECTOR PAULSON: There is. The first speaker will be Apoorva Bakshi. Apoorva, you can unmute yourself and speak. APOORVA BAKSHI: I’ll let the people on the floor go first. I’ll go after them. CHAIR THOMAS: Okay, thank you. The first speaker I have is Rohit. Please come up, state you name, and you will have three minutes. ROHIT BAKSHI: Good evening, everyone. My name is Rohit Bakshi; I am the neighbor on 16515 South Kennedy, which is south of this property. Again, my view is mostly like me standing on my property and assessing the plans that were shown to me. I don’t have a drawing to imagine what things look like, so the best that I can garner from this is this project has significant privacy intrusions, which would have an LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 18 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 extremely negative impact on our daily lives and our privacy. Here are a few of my points. Elevated position and direct sight. The proposed home is substantially uphill already, and this is a three- story plan from where we stand. I know it’s a basement, but for practical purposes, it’s a three-story for us. It has many unobstructed views into our back yard, our swimming pool, our master bedroom, and our daughter’s bedroom, so I cannot state enough how it violates our privacy. The second and third story windows and balconies. The architectural plan indicates direct-facing second- and third-story windows, as well as multiple balconies which are facing downward, which again, compromise our privacy. From what I could see in the landscaping plan, it fails to provide effective privacy. The majority of the trees are slow-growing or they are deciduous, which means that we will not have immediate or year-round privacy on our property. Shrubs are smaller plants, insufficient to block elevated second- and third-story views. The current design lacks a continuous dense tree buffer, so there are a lot of areas where at least I can see a lot of gaps between the property and our back yard. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 19 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 And again, no mature plantings were specified at least in the plan, so again, I cannot wait for decades before the screen grows fully and I start getting my privacy. Again, I would recommend that they consider the height of this plan, how the balconies are designed, how the windows are designed, and can we increase the height of these windows? Can we have frosted glass for these windows? And definitely have a very enhanced landscape screening plan, which I mentioned in my written record as well, which has (inaudible) into the report. CHAIR THOMAS: Okay, thank you. Are there any questions? Commissioner Stump. COMMISSIONER STUMP: Could I just ask for a summary, because in the correspondence you sent to us you identified three things you’d like to see done as a part of project approval. Reduction in the proposed structure height, preservation of all mature privacy trees, and addition of new privacy enhancing landscaping one, two, three. I hear you also referring to obscured glass and these sorts of things as well, so could you just kind of add on to your list of the one, two, three here? ROHIT BAKSHI: Yes. I would say definitely reconsider the plan for the balconies. There is a pretty LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 20 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 significant portion of these balconies, or probably all of (inaudible) which is facing our property. The second would be considering the height of the windows, and the third would considering the type of glass that is used for these windows, which is frosted glass or any other type which obscures the view. COMMISSIONER STUMP: Thank you. CHAIR THOMAS: Any other questions for the speaker? Commissioner Barnett. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: Thank you. From your property do you have a view of the orange netting that was put up post story poles? ROHIT BAKSHI: Yes. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: And can you describe the extent of that view? ROHIT BAKSHI: There are trees right now in the way, but I can see most of the portions of that view; plus, we have a play area, which is directly adjacent. If my daughter is over there, we can see everything then. But the portions of the orange netting are very clearly visible from our back yard, even from our windows. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: Thank you. CHAIR THOMAS: Okay, thank you. The next speaker card I have is for Kenneth. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 21 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KENNETH MILLER: I’m Ken Miller, a practicing physician in Los Gatos for 50 years. I have lived next to this property for 48, owning part of an old stone wall. Fred, my neighbor and owner of the wall in question has lived there for about 25 years. The developer does not own any part of the wall in the vicinity of the project. The property to be developed does not support the development of such a large home. It is my understanding that the developer now wants to put a garage under the house. This leads to thousands of meters of dirt to be removed, and that will threaten the old stone wall. Prior assurances to not compromise the integrity of the wall has already been broken when, without permission, he imbedded a bolt, and that’s the shiny (inaudible) picture, and attached wires to the wall that he does not own, and here is the relevant picture. He had to do this to support the story poles. If he didn’t do this, he wouldn’t have enough area to support the story poles and we wouldn’t be here. It is not possible to walk around the perimeter of the project and not notice the bolt that the workers placed in the wall and attached wires. The developer had a duty of care to the neighbor’s property and should have noticed the bolt and the wires attached. The developer met with the owner of the wall this LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 22 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 month and neglected to mention this insult, nor did he suggest any remediation. Now, Fred Ebrahimi, who is the neighbor, cannot be here to represent himself, as he is traveling. To protect my neighbor’s interest, I’ve engaged a civil engineer, recognizing the continued lodging of the bolt is not in the wall’s best interest. Studies still must be done to document the (inaudible) and the best way to remedy the situation. The engineer is insisting that he work for the owner of the wall. He also wants to analyze the dirt for removal and what I call the gaggle of (inaudible) the civil engineer needs. Other issues include the developer needing to recognize the up driveway is not his private road and never had a lock. He needs to resurface the down concrete driveway from the damage of his last project and the damage that will happen with the current project by resurfacing the concrete. The oak trees and the (inaudible) that border his property should not be damaged. The workmen are not to use the up driveway in either direction. Heavy trucks are not to travel on the asphalt driveway nor park on the asphalt LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 23 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 driveway. No cars or trucks are to travel on or turn around on the pavement at 16565 Kennedy Road. At the end of each work week the concrete driveway is to be blown or swept of debris that could cause flat tires. The developer needs to inform and work with the owner of the wall holding the bolt. The owner of the wall will need time to hire experts concerning the bolt, and a geologist is hard to get for the bolt and LRDA problems. The problem that the developer caused needs to have a bonded payment, and he is forcing the neighbor to expense. The bond comes first. The developer’s request now is for an LRDA that should be denied. How much over 100% is it? Is it 500%? Does he go to Town Hall? CHAIR THOMAS: Are there any questions for the speaker? Commissioner Burnett. COMMISSIONER BURNETT: What is your solution for the wall situation? KENNETH MILLER: He should not be able to remove such a large amount of dirt that threatens the wall or has a negative impact to the neighbors above and below this project. Also, it becomes easier to reduce the height of the house by not placing (inaudible) under the house. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 24 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 CHAIR THOMAS: I’m sorry, the question was what specific action are you… KENNETH MILLER: Oh. So, the civil engineer says you have to study the issue, because I don’t know how to get the bolt out of the wall in terms of not harming the old wall, so before you do it you have to study how much pull and pressure is going this way from more than one wire. Then if you look at the picture, you’ll see that it’s lodged, and that’s the only stone that’s ruptured in that wall, and it’s about 40”, and it’s about a 7-8’ wall. So, he’s injured a wall not on his property. He’s used wires that don’t belong attached. I don't know how plainer it is, but he’s just simply not allowed to do that. CHAIR THOMAS: Thank you. We appreciate your comments. Do you feel like your question was answered. COMMISSIONER BURNETT: I believe so. Yes. CHAIR THOMAS: Thank you. Commissioner Stump has another question for you. COMMISSIONER STUMP: Could you repeat who the owner of that wall is? KENNETH MILLER: Fred Ebrahimi is the owner of the wall. He’s presently traveling. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 25 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER STUMP: So, you are representing him tonight? KENNETH MILLER: His sons allowed me to represent him tonight. And in previous conversation with him he said, “I’m not going to be there. Could you talk on my behalf?” COMMISSIONER STUMP: Thank you. CHAIR THOMAS: Any additional questions? Thank you. The next speaker I have is Susan. SUSAN MILLER: I’m Susan Miller; I’ve lived at 16565 Kennedy Road for 37 years. My husband, Ken, mentioned that the Ebrahimis own the wall, but we actually own part of it as well. What I want to say is that this is a very fragile piece of property. The rock walls go the distance of the driveway, so it’s not just this one rock wall, it’s several. The piece of land that Robert wants to build this on is actually very narrow. It’s a long, narrow, winding piece of property and nowhere is there a wide space to put a (inaudible). It is a habitat where we have animals. We have foxes and special plants that don’t grow anywhere else, and mushrooms that don’t grow anywhere else. I just want to say how fragile this piece of property is. CHAIR THOMAS: Are there any questions for the current speaker? No. Okay, thank you. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 26 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 SUSAN MILLER: I actually have pictures of what I’m talking about, if you want. CHAIR THOMAS: You can set one there and we can… If you could put one on the table, that would be good too, so it can be used for… Thank you. On the table in front for the public to see. Thank you. The next speaker card I have is for Lee Quintana. LEE QUINTANA: Hi, good evening. My name is Lee Quintana. I am not an immediate neighbor. I serve on the Historic Preservation Committee, but I’m speaking as an individual and from my concern for hillside development. I have three points I’d like to make. First, in reading all the letters from various neighbors it seemed to me that the question of flippage of land and the failing of retaining wall seem to be repeated over and over again. I’m concerned about the timing of the geotechnical soils report and any hydrology report that would be needed. The Condition of Approval do not include them during this process of approving the Architecture and Site Application, but rather as a result of being submitted with the building permit application, which is way later than the final designs for the building itself. So, that’s number one. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 27 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Number two, it’s mentioned several times that there are rock walls both on the property and off the property. From a historic preservation point of view, we would like to preserve as many of the rock walls as we can, and there is no indication in this application that that is going to occur, that the rocks would be reused to build other walls. Thirdly, the Residential Design Guidelines on page 11 have a discussion about how to apply the 2-2-5 formula, and it specifically says that there are some instances when that does not apply, and I’ve lost my page number on that, but basically it includes the hillside areas, because no two properties on the hillsides are exactly the same, they’re different sizes, they’re different shapes, they have different problems, and they have different slopes. I would ask that you take that into consideration. All those tables that are included really do not help the analysis. Lastly, I’ve forgotten, so I guess that’s it, unless you have a question. CHAIR THOMAS: Are there any questions for Ms. Quintana? Commissioner Stump. COMMISSIONER STUMP: Lee, could you clarify your third point again? I’m not sure that I fully understood it. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 28 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 LEE QUINTANA: If you look at page 23 of your Staff Report, which is page 5 of 9 of this particular agenda item, there is a chart which lists 10-15 properties, giving sizes and FARs and trying to use them as a comparison. The problem here is that they are very different in the sizes, you have no information about the steepness of the other properties, and you have no information about how much is underground and how much is visible. It doesn’t give you the tools that you need for making decisions within the hillsides, because it is inequal comparisons. CHAIR THOMAS: Thank you. Any additional questions? No. The next speaker card I have is Matthew Ebrahimoon. MATTHEW EBRAHIMOON: Hi, my name is Matthew Ebrahimoon. I’m going to take the first 30 seconds to show you a picture of what’s really going on. I showed a picture of this, because it’s hard to understand what’s going on. This is an extremely down-sloping lot, and I think it’s important for you guys to see what we’re really talking about. It’s a small piece of land. The person, he put a big bolt inside the 90-year-old wall, which is a Los Gatos river rock wall, without asking anybody. And then he came to my parents’ house at night when it was dark and LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 29 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 discussed this, will you let us do this, when you can’t see the bolt, you can’t see the wires. This was done maliciously; it was done behind all the neighbors’ backs. What are you going to do now with this bolt? What are you going to do with the wiring? How are you going to take it out? How are you going to make sure that it hasn’t jeopardized the wall and integrity of the road that is connected to the wall, that’s connected to the said property? What you have to understand is that there is a piece of land that’s extremely downsloped that butts up to a historical wall, that’s connected to a historical road, that touches both Dr. Miller’s property and my family’s property. Everything touches one after the next; everything is connected. I grew up there. My family has been there for 30 or so years. I don't know what’s going to happen next. Meetings, geological meetings, meetings with civil engineers, what to do with this bolt? I mean, imagine somebody, they do this, right? They put a bolt in… It’s like, that is not your wall, you cannot do that, and you did, so now what? How are you going to remove it? How are you going to guarantee that when you build this house that that wall is not going to fall, that the road that’s LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 30 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 connected to that wall is not going to fall down the hillside. I mean, when you sell this house, how are you even going to guarantee that? CHAIR THOMAS: Thank you. Are there any questions for the speaker? Commissioner Burnett. COMMISSIONER BURNETT: So, what you’re saying is that you feel the hillside is not a stable hillside anymore for the road above it and for the property now that they are planning to build on it? MATTHEW EBRAHIMOON: Look, I’m not a civil engineer, I’m not… COMMISSIONER BURNETT: But is that your concern, that this has caused an instability with the wall causing… MATTHEW EBRAHIMOON: It’s my concern, and I think that it would be unwise for anyone in my family’s position not to further seek professional opinion, meetings, geological and civil reports in order to assess the damage that this bolt has done, and the potential liability that this developer can assume. COMMISSIONER BURNETT: Thank you. I think you’ve answered the question. CHAIR THOMAS: Any other questions for the speaker? I do have a question. I hear and understand the concerns about the wall, however, that is out of our LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 31 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 purview as decisionmakers. We’ll confirm that with Staff in a moment. But with the bolt and everything, other than the concern of making sure that any sort of development that’s discussed or approved moving forward is protecting the integrity of the wall, are there any other specific concerns that you’re trying to communicate about the project? MATTHEW EBRAHIMOON: Yes, thank you for asking. This seems like a nonconforming building being built on a nonconforming piece of land for such a structure, and I have, with my own eyes, seen the orange fencing to show you what this looks like. I think as a part of a planning commission it’s important to make sure that the quality and also experience of existing neighbors who have been there for decades should remain the same or similar to the way that it has been for years, and this structure is not going to allow for this to happen. Mr. Bakshi, I believe, had mentioned his house, like if you’re in the swimming pool it’s going to be hard to swim without your neighbors like looking at you. CHAIR THOMAS: Okay, thank you. So, privacy of some of your neighbors is a concern. MATTHEW EBRAHIMOON: And views, and the mountains, like being able to sit in… I’ve been in Dr. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 32 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Miller’s kitchen. You’re not going to be able to sit where he spends like most of his time, him and his wife; I’ve been there. It’s going to be hard to sit there and not see this house. CHAIR THOMAS: Okay, thank you. Thank you very much. The last speaker card I have is Nathaniel Ebrahimoon. NATHANIEL EBRAHIMOON: Hi, everyone. Thank you for having us here to represent the Ebrahimoon property. Our father is traveling, otherwise he would be here as well with my mother. Here to kind of just share a little bit of the story of our home. I am the youngest sibling, which means out of our siblings, I’ve lived there the longest. The home means a lot to us. I have been there since I was seven years old. A lot of the memories that we have are in that home, on that property, with our friends. It’s why we’re so passionate and we care so much about our community and our neighbors. Looking at the proposed plans and just kind of understanding some of the potential impact risks as it relates to the wall, the Fire, the views, the privacy, it’s important to know that this home likely will or is going to be passed down to my brothers and I, and it’s a property that will stay in our lives forever. As we think about us LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 33 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 creating families, bringing our families into the home, we also are very cautious of any changes in the neighborhood that can create discomfort, any safety issues, and having been there for so long, there have been very few changes, and this is a massive structural change to the space. From a height perspective, we’re not talking one or two stories, it’s three, including a basement, which sure, but it’s still height, right? So, we are just being very cautious as we think about the proposed changes in the neighborhood and making sure that everybody in the neighborhood continues to have the experience that historically has been there for us with any adjustments that come. So, just wanted to share that we’re all thinking about now and a few years from now, but this neighborhood, and I’m sure Ken is the same, as he’s been in his home forever, and the neighbors that surround us down the hill, we are thinking not only about the next three, or five, or ten, or twenty years, we’re also thinking about generations to come and our love for Los Gatos, going to the public schools and being able to create a family and experience similar to the ones that we’re so happy and proud to have a part of our lives, so anything that impacts that, of course, we’re going to be super careful, sensitive, LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 34 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 thoughtful around, which is why you see the representation from so many members in the neighborhood tonight. CHAIR THOMAS: Are there any questions for the speaker? I do have a question. Part of our job is to review the application as is, and I hear your concerns. Are there any specific things about the project, other than what you mentioned, the height, is there anything specific that you feel like you would like to see changed or implemented that would help with it? NATHANIEL EBRAHIMOON: I’ll leave that to the surrounding neighbors that are there every single day. I think the privacy was brought up; I think the height was brought up. The retaining wall, of course. Any bolts or continued action or anything that…making sure those are within the bounds of peoples’ decisions, because they’re actually working within their easements in their property. Those are kind of the main concerns around what we’ve seen, and again, why we’re all here kind of speaking up. CHAIR THOMAS: Okay, thank you. I have another speaker card, and this is for Jonathan Ebrahimoon. JONATHAN EBRAHIMOON: Hello, my name is Jonathan; I’m the oldest son of Fred and Ora. We’ve been hearing about this height. It becomes easier to reduce the height of the house by not placing the LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 garage under the house above, thus not needing to remove the dirt, and thus not threatening the wall and the properties of the neighbors. Let me tell you a little bit about myself. Just like my two brothers, we went to school here, public school K-12. I went to Daves Avenue, then Fisher, and then I went to Los Gatos High School, and now I have a daughter—I bought a place in town—who is turning nine next month and who goes to Daves Avenue School. We have a lot of memories in this house, just like my brothers were talking about. We just want to make sure that you guys do the right thing for us. Does anyone have any questions for me? CHAIR THOMAS: Does anyone have a question for the speaker? Commissioner Barnett. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: Would you kindly provide more detail regarding your proposal regarding the location of the garage on the proposed property? JONATHAN EBRAHIMOON: The house is too tall, it’s too high. The height is just not all right. This is something you guys have got to talk with engineers and figure that out. This is not my area of expertise, but the way they have it planned, it’s going to be way too tall. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: If I may follow-up, Chair? CHAIR THOMAS: Yes. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 36 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER BARNETT: You made some specific comments about relocating the garage, and I wonder if you could expand on that? Or maybe I misheard you. JONATHAN EBRAHIMOON: Again, this is just something that maybe you can take up with the engineers. At the end of the day, everyone’s concern is the height of this house. They’ve got to figure out that also privacy seems to be a concern as well. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: Thank you. CHAIR THOMAS: Commissioner Stump. COMMISSIONER STUMP: What is it specifically about the height? I mean, we all visited the property. I stood above that rock wall, and of course I’m standing a little bit more than 6’ tall, and so I’m looking down on the roof. It’s not blocking my vision directly across, but obviously, if you have a house downslope wherever it is, you look down, you’re doing to see a house, and so what part of this roof is… Why, from your perspective, do you think the roof is too high? What is it blocking for you? JONATHAN EBRAHIMOON: We heard the first speaker was talking about he has a daughter. I have a daughter myself. I would hate for someone to be on the balcony looking down and seeing my daughter swimming in a pool, or LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 37 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 just looking into my master bedroom with my wife. That would bother me. It’s going to be an eyesore. CHAIR THOMAS: Any additional questions? Thank you. I have no more speaker cards, but I believe there are some speakers on Zoom. DIRECTOR PAULSON: That’s correct. The first will be Ms. Bakshi. APOORVA BAKSHI: Hi, thank you. I am Apoorva Bakshi and I reside in 16515, which is the downhill property. My husband, Rohit Bakshi, mentioned our severe concerns in terms of privacy. I do believe that the reason why we bought this home last May, we are new residents of Los Gatos, was because of the unhindered back yard on the hill, which has our whole… We spend a lot of time in our back yard, which has a swimming pool, it has a netting, it has a proper play net, and multiple spots where you can meditate as well as two play structures for our daughter, and an upcoming one. I’m pregnant right now, I’ll be delivering in May, so we’ll have two daughters in our family. The reason why we’re concerned about this is the net is very visible from our property. There is barely any coverage from down below, and the major concerns are in terms of how it disturbs the ecosystem as well as the LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 38 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 holding walls. I will also rely on experts, I think a lot of people have spoken to that, and all the families up above. But it is a severe concern that our privacy needs to be absolutely taken care of. We want to be able to review the structure in terms of its height. You have to be able to redesign the balconies. When I did see the plan which Robert shared, I was quite pregnant, I could not really walk up and see how narrow this piece of land is, so that’s my concern, as well as how imposing this structure would be on our property in terms of views, as well as I did see a full ceiling-to- floor glass usage in the balconies, so that is something that we would like you to really consider mandating mature screening, not only in terms of natural screening, but also specifics in terms of reduced window heights or redesigning balconies. That’s something that has to be absolutely taken care of. This whole property that we bought was for the reasons that we had this privacy, and we had the comfort of a hillside home. The first day I came here we had a family of four deer walk into our estate and it was really, really refreshing to see that. I do believe that some of my neighbors have that concern that there is habitat that this LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 39 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 neighborhood has preserved and enjoyed for a long time, which will also get disturbed. So, those are my concerns. If there are any questions for me, I will answer. CHAIR THOMAS: Thank you, that is the time. But I will ask if there are any questions from Commissioners? No. Thank you for your comments. DIRECTOR PAULSON: The next speaker will be Ms. Tinsley. CAROL TINSLEY: I live at 16555 South Kennedy Road and I would like to point out that Robert was lying when he said that he spoke to all the neighbors, because he didn’t. At no time did he come up to me, and at no point in any of his drawing does my house show up, and I’m within 500’ of the building site. Second of all, as already said, this is a very steep hillside. There’s basically a little plateau that happens. It’s an unstable hillside; trees fall all the time, and they are deeply rooted. I would also say that if anything from the building site were to fall down the hill, it would most certainly hit the house in front of them, because it will just keep rolling if there’s nothing to stop something from LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 40 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 hitting the neighbor’s house, or their pool, or whatever. So that’s where I start. I will also say this is the second home that Robert has built on a hillside. The first one he was red tagged for failing to follow Town processes, so you should take that into consideration when you heard about the bolt and other things. When he built his first home he caused substantial damage to the shared driveway, which has never been replaced, and I would certainly expect that any building that is going to take place, there would be a guarantee that he would replace the main drive. As for his repeated points about the Fire. His other neighbors have had to comply with the turnaround, and they’ve even had to have several water tanks built onto their property to mitigate any Fire issues, so that should also be considered. I don’t understand why he is not being required to have these tanks installed on his property in addition to all the other structures. Now, let’s see. For reference, if you’d like to look at the newly constructed building, it’s 16461, it’s one driveway over, and they have these massive tanks of water. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 41 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Robert has owned the property for more than ten years and he’s never maintained the property and he has left it to other neighbors to maintain, including when the fence has fallen down and other things. Now, luckily, we have a very generous neighbor who does take it on as a pet project, but I just want to put that out there. Again, it’s a very narrow building area. It doesn’t allow for any like lawn or… CHAIR THOMAS: That’s time, thank you. Are there any questions from Commissioners for the speaker? Commissioner Stump. COMMISSIONER STUMP: This may not be directly to the speaker, but what is our notification process? Because we have responsibility for notification. CHAIR THOMAS: You can ask Staff after. Any question for the speaker? Are there any additional hands raised on Zoom? DIRECTOR PAULSON: No additional hands from the public. The Applicant’s architect’s hand is raised, but they’ll have their time. CHAIR THOMAS: So now I invite the Applicant to come back up for your closing statement. You’ll have three additional minutes to speak, and you can share that with your architect as you see fit. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 42 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 CHRIS SPAULDING: I will start. Robert will address the privacy. I just wanted to quickly address the stability of the hillside and the Fire. We did get a geotechnical report to make sure that this site was buildable. It is. Once this house is built and the new retaining walls are installed to the latest standards this house and the drainage associated with the retaining walls will buttress that hillside so that that roadway and old wall will be supported much better than it is now. In the long-term, this house will provide the stability for the uphill neighbors, wall and roadway, and Robert has agreed to repair any damage that occurs during construction, but in the long-term this is good for the stability of that wall and the hillside. Secondly, the Fire. This house will be built as fireproof as possible, which is very fireproof these days, and the Fire Department is requiring the roadway, Vivian Drive, be improved with better traction and widening the opening onto South Kennedy Road, and are requiring a private fire hydrant, which is like a standard fire hydrant but it’s on private land, to be brought all the way up to the new fire apparatus turnaround, which is why they don’t need the tanks, because it would be a full fire hydrant. Together, all those features are going to provide better LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 43 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 fire protection for everybody in that neighborhood at no cost to them. So, yes, it’s a new house. It means the trouble of construction and noise and dust and time, but in the end, this will be a nice house and it will be beneficial to the neighbors, and I’ll let Robert talk about the privacy. ROBERT NICOL: I’ve provided a presentation here. This the basement level where we’re to put in the trees, which I’m also willing to put in a wooden fence if that would increase the privacy for the neighbors. Here is the second level of the basement where there is more shrubbery and trees blocking. This would be the main floor. This is what is going to be seen from the main floor. This shows more of their trees as well as my trees showing and blocking, so there is no issue of privacy. This is from the second floor and all of the additional trees. There’s another photo of what you will see. CHAIR THOMAS: That is time. ROBERT NICOL: Is it okay if we just go through the last couple of pictures? LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 44 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 CHAIR THOMAS: I actually cannot allow that; I’m so sorry. But thank you, and I think that we probably will have additional questions for you. The first is from Vice Chair Burch. VICE CHAIR BURCH: This is going to be a question for probably a combination of you and your architect. I think when people talk about the height, we’re really talking a lot about the massing, because on a hillside there is a step up of the levels. When you do take a look at the three floors, the basement with the upper two floors, and you do look at the number of rooms and everything you have in there, I would like to know if there would be a way to reduce the size of the upper floor, shifting perhaps one of those rooms to one of the down- level bedrooms to perhaps take the massing of the highest level down a bit. That might help a bit with some of the perception of massing to your neighbors. ROBERT NICOL: I think with the symmetry of the house, the way that the architect, Chris, who has been an architect for many projects in Los Gatos, has put symmetry between the basement and the first and second floor. VICE CHAIR BURCH: I’m sure that Chris is a good architect. If it was something you were willing to compromise with. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 45 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 CHRIS SPAULDING: Could I respond to that? VICE CHAIR BURCH: Sure. CHRIS SPAULDING: The architectural drawings, if you look in your packet on Sheet A-8, that shows what looks like a full, large three-story faced, the upper level, the third floor, is set back completely back behind the main level, so when you view that from below, that third floor is not visible. You’d only see it as it’s shown on Sheet A- 8 is if you were in a drone 50’ above the ground. When you’re down on the neighbor’s property looking up, the upper level is set back so far that it won’t be visible. That perception of bulk that you see in that drawing is not… VICE CHAIR BURCH: No, Chris, I see it. I understand. CHRIS SPAULDING: Yes, it’s not actually how you would visualize…how it would be perceived in reality. VICE CHAIR BURCH: Chair, can I ask one additional question? CHAIR THOMAS: Yes. VICE CHAIR BURCH: Then in relation to some of the privacy concerns that we heard from your downhill neighbor, one of the things that they brought up were the decks, and I would like to know if you would be willing… On LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 46 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 the family room, you have two decks off of that, one being a deck on the southwest side, it’s a little smaller anyways. If that were to help you in your conversations and work with your neighbors, would you be willing to move that portion of the deck, leaving the larger other deck, but the deck that is basically looking down at your neighbors? ROBERT NICOL: I wouldn’t prefer to have that removed. I’m definitely willing to work with the Planning Commission and the neighbors, but it’s not my preference. CHAIR THOMAS: Are there any other questions? Commissioner Burnett. COMMISSIONER BURNETT: Yes, thank you. You were talking about the retaining walls, and I know we do have the retaining walls for the Fire turnaround. Were you also taking about a retaining wall behind the house where we have such concern about the antique rock wall? What are you doing to prevent erosion from coming behind the house? ROBERT NICOL: Chris, can you answer that? CHRIS SPAULDING: I’m not exactly sure what you mean. COMMISSIONER BURNETT: Behind the house, because the antique wall is sort of like in jeopardy now and seems like it has some issues going on, what kind of stability are you going to have behind the new house? LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 47 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 CHRIS SPAULDING: On the uphill side of the new house all the retaining walls are actually within the footprint of the house, so above the house all there will be is a surface drain to drain away any surface waters, but otherwise that hillside is just the existing to remain, be natural. CHAIR THOMAS: Commissioner Stump. COMMISSIONER STUMP: I guess I’ll call them your downhill neighbors, they’re asking that all the mature privacy trees be preserved. Are they speaking about trees on your property, or are they trees on someone else’s property, or do you fully know what that request is? ROBERT NICOL: They have massive oak trees that are on their property that I consider the privacy screening that they’re referring to, but I’m not 100% certain. Because I showed the pictures after in my rebuttal where all you saw were trees from the basement level, the first floor, and the second floor in my presentation. COMMISSIONER STUMP: They’ve asked for addition of new privacy enhancing landscaping, which from what I understand, you’re willing to consider and work with them. ROBERT NICOL: Yes. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 48 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER STUMP: There was even something brought up about Toyon not being the preferred planting, and so anyway, that’s good to hear from you now. Commissioner Burch has already discussed briefly about balconies and the concern they may have there. Obviously, they’ve talked about either the height of the windows or obscuring some of those. Is that also something you’re willing to work with the neighbors on? ROBERT NICOL: I’m willing to put in drapes. From the pictures and the photos there was all… I could see from those photos I presented were trees and I couldn’t even see their home, so I am still a little confused as to when I provided the visual evidence of what they are claiming. COMMISSIONER STUMP: Thank you. CHAIR THOMAS: Commissioner Barnett. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: You heard your downslope neighbor saying that the orange netting was clearly visible from their house, and you’re saying it’s not at all. Do you have any way to reconcile this perspective? ROBERT NICOL: Yes, I provided the pictures in the presentation in my rebuttal. CHRIS SPAULDING: Can I speak to that? The pictures as he showed, there is a canopy of trees that is on the neighbor’s property that provides screening from the LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 49 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 upper levels of the proposed house and pretty much screens their house from this new house. But those mature trees are limbed up 10-20’, and so when you’re down on the lowest level of the proposed house you can see below those trees down to the neighbor’s back yard, their play area, and that’s what really needs the screening. The landscape architect provided the row of Toyon trees. Toyons were selected because they’re evergreen and they’re a native species, but I’m sure Robert would be happy to provide any tree that would provide the screening the neighbors would want. To make that screening complete, those trees don’t have to be terribly tall, they only need to be about 15’ high to fill in that open area from the ground to the underside of that existing oak canopy that’s on the neighbor’s property and that they control. Thank you. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: If I may just follow-up on that? CHAIR THOMAS: Yes. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: I wonder if Mr. Spaulding could comment on the offer of the Applicant to install a fence. Would that be superfluous, or something that wouldn’t be necessary if the plantings were put in as suggested? LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 50 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 CHRIS SPAULDING: That would completely screen the lower 6’, but the screen planting would still be needed for the 6-15’ to complete the screen. Thank you. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: Thank you for that. CHAIR THOMAS: Are there any other questions for the Applicant at this time? Okay, thank you very much. ROBERT NICOL: Thank you. CHAIR THOMAS: We will now close the public portion of the public hearing on Item #2, and I invite Commissioners to ask questions of Staff, provide comments, or propose a motion. Vice Chair Burch. VICE CHAIR BURCH: Ms. Shoopman, there has been discussions about the height, that it’s too tall, and I know that when we’re in the hillsides the way we measure this can get a little difficult. Could you go back again and explain how we measure from the low to the high point that 34’, just to make sure that up here when we’re discussing height and where we are with this, we’re all discussing the same thing? JOCELYN SHOOPMAN: Yes, thank you for that. In these hillside settings where you do have these exposed grades with the below grade space, we’re looking at the high to low point of the exposed grade to the highest point. This Applicant does comply with that 35’ LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 51 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 requirement, but in terms of your discussion of massing, the Planning Commission could certainly look at roof slopes, ceiling plate heights, and other ways to address height concerns. VICE CHAIR BURCH: Thank you. CHAIR THOMAS: Vice Chair Burch. VICE CHAIR BURCH: We heard some things about the wall and the poor choice to put a bolt in this wall. I know Staff, Public Works, we have different people I know that have looked at… In the past, we’ve had somebody go look at some of these historic rock walls. Is there anybody with the Town that would be able to go look at that and make a recommendation on how this gets properly patched? DIRECTOR PAULSON: The likelihood is probably no. This is a civil issue; we’re not going to want to take on that liability from the Town’s perspective. The Town Attorney can hit me if I’m misspeaking. But ultimately, you can potentially have an engineer go out and take a look at it and see what damage they think it is, but it’s going to take a more thorough investigation that is going to need to involve professionals above and beyond what our Staff would be able to do. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 52 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 VICE CHAIR BURCH: Wanting that to happen is something like I could theoretically put into a motion or something to make sure that it’s captured or… DIRECTOR PAULSON: We have engineers sitting here right now listening to you, so I don’t think that’s going to be an issue. We’ll make sure that we circle back with them following this hearing or the conclusion of this item and see what options we have. VICE CHAIR BURCH: Thank you. CHAIR THOMAS: Commissioner Stump. COMMISSIONER STUMP: A recommendation from one of the speakers was that as a Condition of Approval, if we go down that path, we should require geotechnical work as a condition of our approval, not waiting for the Building Permit to me issued. Is that something that can be done? JOCELYN SHOOPMAN: Thank you. There is a Condition of Approval for a geotechnical report. I’m looking at the exact wording of when it’s required, and I believe it’s required to be completed prior to Building Permit issuance, but I’ll defer to our engineers. JAMES WATSON: James Watson, PPW Senior Engineer. The Conditions of Approval do include some additional geotechnical reviews that need to be done prior to the construction documents being approved. The geotechnical LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 53 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 engineer for the Applicant themselves pointed that they didn’t have the expertise to do the geological study that was needed for the landslide, and so they put into their report that a subsequent study would be needed, our peer reviewer picked up on that, and we have that in our Conditions of Approval. CHAIR THOMAS: Thank you. Commissioner Barnett. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: Does the requirement for a geotechnical report include hydrology that was mentioned? JAMES WATSON: I don’t recall any comments about the hydrology. The geotech engineer doing a landslide study would obviously be looking at hydrology to understand how the soil saturation would affect the potential for landslides. I just don’t recall a specific reference to hydrology, but the general idea of a geological study of a landslide area would look at how hydrology is going to effect. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: Understood, thank you. CHAIR THOMAS: Commissioner Barnett. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: I do have more questions. I didn’t want to monopolize the microphone here. Do the Conditions of Approval, as I expect, provide for protection of the wall and hillside during construction? LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 54 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JOCELYN SHOOPMAN: Thank you for that question. They do not specifically. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: Is there a reason not to, and wouldn't it be advisable to include those? JOCELYN SHOOPMAN: The Planning Commission could choose to include an additional condition. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: Then I had a question about the Fire Department, which County Fire presumably has signed off on, if I recall correctly. Does that include the improvement of the traction on the roadway on Vivian Drive? JOCELYN SHOOPMAN: Santa Clara County Fire has reviewed this application and they have approved it. Their Conditions of Approval are included. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: For the Town Attorney, Ms. Whelan. Can you confirm again the California law regarding an easement for light or view, and also whether we can still consider privacy in light of that law as I expect it to be? ATTORNEY WHELAN: The law provides that local jurisdictions can enact ordinances that protect light, air, and view easements. The Town does not currently have any of those ordinances in place. Then, remind me of your second question. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 55 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER BARNETT: Is privacy still a legitimate consideration? I assume it is. ATTORNEY WHELAN: Well, it’s interesting, because the Applicant is asking to build outside of the LRDA area, and when an applicant is asking for an exception from a standard, there are findings that the Planning Commission needs to make, and it says, “Any deviation from the standards contained in this document shall include the rationale and evidence to support the deviation, and exceptions can be granted.” So, if there were something related to the fact that the Applicant is building outside of the LRDA, and there were a condition that were related to that request of the Applicant, I believe that would be defensible. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: Chair, if I might, let me check my notes. Again, I guess for Ms. Whelan. Could a condition be imposed that required drapes on the windows, and would that be enforceable? ATTORNEY WHELAN: Drapes on the windows? COMMISSIONER BARNETT: Yes, could that be made an enforceable condition? ATTORNEY WHELAN: Maybe run through the other questions, and I can give that some thought. I think the issue with that is they’re only useful if they’re closed. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 56 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER BARNETT: Or alternative window coverings, like shutters? ATTORNEY WHELAN: Let me ponder that, and I’ll get back to you, if there are other questions in the meantime. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: Okay, thank you. I’m sorry, there was one more question. The concern was raised about damage to the lower home as a consequence of construction. Are there any particular provisions in the conditions to address the safety of the lives and property on the lower adjacent property during construction? ATTORNEY WHELAN: Yes, the Conditions of Approval do require applicants to indemnify and defend the Town from any claims that arise out of the Town’s approval of a planning application. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: Thank you. CHAIR THOMAS: I have two questions. One came up about a fence. Could we review the Fence Ordinance requirements for the hillsides? If you want a minute to do that, that’s totally fine, to bring them up. JOCELYN SHOOPMAN: Are there some specific questions you have about the fencing? LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 57 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 CHAIR THOMAS: From my understanding of our Hillside Fence Ordinance, there’s not really an appropriate way to implement a fence for privacy purposes. JOCELYN SHOOPMAN: The hillside fences are limited to 6’ in height, unlike other areas of the Town where you may see 7-8’, so that is one consideration. Depending on the location of the fence, there are requirements that it also be open view to still allow habitat to be able to go through, so there are some of those additional stipulations depending on where the fence is on the property. CHAIR THOMAS: Thank you. Then a clarification about landscaping in the hillsides too. There were some requests by neighbors to plant some trees that are not natives, but my understanding is that there needs… Can you explain what can and can’t be planted? JOCELYN SHOOPMAN: Appendix A of the Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines does give recommended tree plantings and shrubs; however, the Planning Commission does have the purview to choose additional plantings. DIRECTOR PAULSON: To the Chair’s question, there is one specific type of tree that Staff would not allow to be planted as part of a mitigation in the hillside setting in the form of Italian Cypress. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 58 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 CHAIR THOMAS: Is that due to fire safety issues? DIRECTOR PAULSON: Yes. CHAIR THOMAS: Thank you. Are there any other specific questions? I was going to ask Ms. Shoopman, can you review again… I just want to make sure that we all understand that this is why this is in front of the Planning Commission and with regard to the grading depths, the retaining wall height, the retaining wall length, and the LRDA. JOCELYN SHOOPMAN: Sure, thanks for that question. Everything you just described, those exceptions require the Planning Commission’s review, which is why we are before you tonight. The Applicant has explained why those requests are being made due to the steep topography, and so just as you explained, all of those items do require the Planning Commission’s review. CHAIR THOMAS: Just to confirm, according to Staff and the consulting architect, the design of the home is compatible with the neighborhood and it is abiding by all the Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines other than these four issues? JOCELYN SHOOPMAN: Yes, based on the consulting architect’s review, the home does comply with the Hillside LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 59 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Development Standards and Guidelines specific to the architectural sections. CHAIR THOMAS: Okay, thank you. Vice Chair Burch. VICE CHAIR BURCH: Mr. Mullin, would you be able to pull up A-3 and go back over the LRDA on this? Only because it is one of the items, and based on what the attorney just said, are we able to pull that up and be very clear on where the LRDA is on the property? SEAN MULLIN: I can, but it will take a minute or so. VICE CHAIR BURCH: That’s fine. I think we can go ahead with our discussion. SEAN MULLIN: Do you have the sheet number, the page number in the packet, by chance? VICE CHAIR BURCH: Oh, yes, 155. CHAIR THOMAS: While Mr. Mullin is pulling that up, are there any other questions for Staff at this time, or does anyone want to kick off discussion? Vice Chair Burch. VICE CHAIR BURCH: I am kicking off the discussion. I’ve had the opportunity to look at a lot of hillside homes during my tenure, and they’re always very challenging. Obviously, just the slope of the land and LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 60 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 interesting lot lines and lot configurations make them always a little bit challenging. I do think there are some challenges on this property. I want to point out, if you look on Sheet A-11, one of the items in the Hillside Guidelines is that homes built in the hillside kind of stair-step with the slope, and I do want to point out that this property is doing that rather than have a 35’ vertical plane. That said, I still think there is probably some opportunity to reduce the deck, maybe to work with window height, and to work a little bit with the privacy with the neighbors. I think there is some more opportunity for the Applicant to work with their neighbors on landscaping for privacy purposes. I’m going to pause where else I was going to go, because Mr. Mullin, if you could do me a favor then and point out on this exactly where the LRDA is on this property. SEAN MULLIN: I can start, and then Ms. Shoopman can correct me if I’m wrong. Just to zoom in on the legend, this light grey area is areas over 30% slopes. There’s a delineation of the Least Restrictive Development Area showing the areas under 30%, so I don't know if you can see my cursor. You can see a couple callouts of little pockets LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 61 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 along the roadway, and then a small pocket in this area where the LRDA is located, and the house is located up in this corner. VICE CHAIR BURCH: Okay. I wanted to make sure we were all aware of the extreme limitations on that. Thank you. Just to finish, and then I’ll let Commissioner Barnett go. We are dealing with a complicated site, but I do think that there is probably a bit more work that the Applicant could be doing with their neighbors to address some of the privacy issues as far as the deck, windows, and landscape. CHAIR THOMAS: Commissioner Barnett. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: I’m in general agreement with that, but I suppose that puts us in the position of making conditions that the Applicant work with Staff to address those issues, or we continue this matter to see what changes have actually been proposed. VICE CHAIR BURCH: I made the comment, I’ll address it. I am always very inclined to have the applicants work with Staff. They are professionals in this and studied this. They are very well versed in our guidelines requirements and some of the nuances that these take. So, that would be my recommendation. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 62 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 CHAIR THOMAS: I feel like that too. I don’t think that this project needs significant changes enough, or I don’t think that we can request significant changes enough at this point for it to need to come back to us. I understand the neighbors’ concerns, and I want to make sure that we attempt to mitigate some of those, however, I do think that the issues regarding the grading depth, the retaining wall, height, and length are all specific and can’t be avoided because of the site, and due to fire safety it’s absolutely required, and the same with the LRDA. So, the four reasons that it’s really in front of the Commission, I believe that we can make the findings for those exceptions, so I would be in favor of the Commission trying to make some specific recommendations to be included in the Conditions of Approval so that Staff can move forward with that. However, I do feel pretty strongly about maintaining some native landscaping in this area, especially hearing from some of the neighbors and public comment about how this area is very natural looking as it is, and I think that it would be really doing a disservice to the ecosystem and the neighbors if there were some plants planted that were not naturally found here. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 63 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 I also want to note that there were comments that Toyon aren’t evergreen, but they are, even though they are slow growing, so I would head more in the direction with regard to landscaping to asking for some larger, more mature trees to be planted. I know that that can be difficult with oaks, but perhaps there are some larger Toyons that can be sourced, and those are evergreen, so I think that that could mitigate some of the neighbor privacy concerns. I think what Vice Chair Burch suggested, reducing the size of that deck or readjusting the deck so it’s really oriented still in the other direction, like ensuring that it’s more oriented away from the neighboring properties, is something that I would also be in favor of. I think that Commissioner Burnett has some comments too. COMMISSIONER BURNETT: Thank you. Looking at the design here, there are so windows. We didn’t address the amount of windows in the home, which would have an effect on the privacy from the home below. I wonder if we maybe talk about that a little bit, because I mean there are a lot of windows. CHAIR THOMAS: I think Ms. Whelan has a comment about that. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 64 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ATTORNEY WHELAN: If it’s a good time, I can respond to Commissioner Barnett’s question about the Conditions of Approval. The Applicant is seeking architectural and site plan approval, and the Town Code provides that when that’s the case the decision-making body can include conditions that are reasonable and necessary to carry out the intent of the chapter. Such conditions can include site planning conditions, architectural conditions, landscape conditions, etc. Requiring a special treatment on the window would be an architectural condition, and so the Planning Commission would need to determine whether or not that was reasonable and necessary in order to ensure harmony with the neighborhood. CHAIR THOMAS: Do you have any follow-up questions? COMMISSIONER BARNETT: No, that’s fine. CHAIR THOMAS: I think that with additional landscape screening, I personally do not see a need to make a lot of changes with regard to making additional recommendations or Conditions of Approval surrounding the windows at this point. I always try to remind myself that the people building the property also value privacy, and the windows LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 65 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 are two-way, so if they can see out, people can see in. I’m not sure that I have any specific recommendations around that, but I’m interested to hear if any other Commissioners do. Commissioner Burnett. COMMISSIONER BURNETT: If you’re looking at the design, there are 14 windows on the bottom, there are 14 in the middle, and there are 10 on the top. I’m just saying, I’m wondering if there would be some way we could reduce the number, and I think that would help with privacy issues for the neighbor below. CHAIR THOMAS: Vice Chair Burch. VICE CHAIR BURCH: Just to add to the dialogue though. If you take a look at the way this is built, on the north-northeast side of the home, if you look at Sheets A- 5, A-6, and A-7, there are really no windows on that side because of the way it’s built into the hillside, so the natural light that they’re getting is actually coming from the southwest side of the building. That said, I think we could say where appropriate, restrooms or a pantry, we could ask for frosted windows, but even like in bedrooms you have to have an egress window. We have to be careful on Building Code and allowing just natural light into a home versus reducing too much. I’m kind of with the Chair; I would mostly prefer LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 66 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 perhaps they work through some of the privacy issues with landscaping, if possible. Really, that’s the only side of the house that has windows. CHAIR THOMAS: Commissioner Stump. COMMISSIONER STUMP: A question for Staff. What direction can we really give an applicant around one of the ways to reduce your privacy is to reduce the number of windows you have in your house? I mean, certainly that’s an option, but how does that really get included as a condition? We’re really trying to achieve, for the neighbors as well as the Applicant, a good solution for privacy, and we’re talking about landscaping, we’re talking about we can require window coverings, but of course that assumes they’re being used. So, what other options do we have as it relates to this whole question of privacy and so much viewing area from this house. JOCELYN SHOOPMAN: Thank you for that question. What Staff would be looking for is specific direction about where the landscaping should be located. (Inaudible) there is specific direction that the landscaping should only be native. There can be specific language about there has to be an agreement from the neighbor on the landscaping; that could be prior to final of the Building Permit, but that’s LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 67 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 the kind of specific language Staff would need in the condition. CHAIR THOMAS: Just to follow-up on that, typically in the past when we include something like this in a Condition of Approval we will say remove this window from this location, or make this window frosted, something very specific, which at this point I don't know if we feel like that’s… So, that’s typically what we’ve done in the past. Commissioner Barnett. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: I’m prepared to try to make a motion based on our discussion so far, recognizing that there may well be proposed additions or deletions, if I may. Concerning Item 2 on our agenda tonight regarding the request for approval to construct a new single-family residence and site improvements requiring a Grading Permit on vacant property zoned HR-1, located at 16498 South Kennedy Road, I can make the findings that the proposed project is categorically exempt under CEQA. I can make the finding that the project complies with the objective standards of Chapter 29 of the Town Code. I can make the finding that due to the constraints of the site, exceptions to grading depth, LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 68 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 retaining wall height, retaining wall length, and building located outside the LRDA are appropriate, and the project is otherwise in compliance with the Hillside Development Standards and Guidelines. I can make the finding that the project complies with the Hillside Specific Plan. I can make the considerations as required by 29.20.150 of the Town Code for granting approval of an Architecture and Site Application, Exhibit 2, and approve the Architecture and Site Application S-24-037 with the conditions contained in Exhibit 3, and the development plans in Exhibit 13. The additions would be that the Applicant work with Staff and the neighbors concerning the height and species of privacy trees, with preference for native trees; that the Applicant discuss with Staff and make possible reduction of the window heights; and that the Applicant further discuss in good faith with the Staff the removal or reorientation of the small deck. CHAIR THOMAS: I think we need a second. Do you second, Vice Chair Burch, and then a friendly amendment? VICE CHAIR BURCH: I’ll second. I would like to make on Condition of Approval #66, as we discussed earlier on in our discussion, the restoration of public LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 69 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 improvements, I would like to ensure that the historic rock wall is included in those repairs, and Ms. Shoopman, if it could be worded in a way that it maintains the historic integrity of the wall. Acceptable? COMMISSIONER BARNETT: That’s acceptable to me if it’s acceptable to Staff and the Town Attorney. ATTORNEY WHELAN: Yes. CHAIR THOMAS: Can I just get a clarification on the landscaping recommendations for privacy that were included? Did you make any recommendations about that to be added? COMMISSIONER BARNETT: Yes, I said the height and species of the privacy trees, with preference for native trees. CHAIR THOMAS: Yes, as applicable to the appendix in A from the Hillside Development Guidelines. COMMISSIONER BARNETT: They’re guidelines, so I’ll accept that. The seconder needs to approve. CHAIR THOMAS: Do you? VICE CHAIR BURCH: Yes. CHAIR THOMAS: Perfect. Any discussion about this motion, or questions? ATTORNEY WHELAN: I have a question. CHAIR THOMAS: Yes. LOS GATOS PLANNING COMMISSION 3/26/2025, Item #2, 16497 South Kennedy Road 70 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ATTORNEY WHELAN: There was a reorientation of something and I didn’t capture what it was. Is it the small deck? COMMISSIONER BARNETT: Removal or reorientation to grant privacy on the small deck. CHAIR THOMAS: I will now call the question and ask for a show of hands in favor of the motion. The motion passes 5-0. Are there any appeal rights? DIRECTOR PAULSON: Yes, thank you, Chair. Anyone who is not satisfied with the decision of the Planning Commission can appeal that decision to the Town Council. Forms are available online and in the Clerk’s Office. There is a fee for filing the appeal, and the appeal must be filed within ten days. CHAIR THOMAS: Okay, thank you. (END)