04-13-05 Minutes - GPCTOWN OF LOS GATOS
110 East Main Street, Los Gatos, CA 95030 (408) 354-6872
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SUMMARY MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE GENERAL PLAN
COMMITTEE OF THE TOWN OF LOS GATOS, APRIL 13, 2005 HELD IN THE TOWN
COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CIVIC CENTER, 110 EAST MAIN STREET, LOS GATOS,
CALIFORNIA.
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The meeting was called to order at 5:40 pm by Vice-Chair Mark Sgarlato.
ATTENDANCE
Members present: Mike Burke, Steve Glickman, Diane McNutt, Tom O’Donnell, Jane Ogle,
Mark Sgarlato, Barry Waitte
Members absent: Phil Micciche
Staff present: Bud Lortz, Director of Community Development; Randy Tsuda, Assistant
Community Development Director; Suzanne Davis, Associate Planner; Joel Paulson, Associate
Planner
VERBAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
ITEM 1 FORMULA RETAIL
Bud Lortz introduced Danielle Surdin, Economic Vitality Manager, noting that the Committee
had discussed this issue at a previous meeting and had requested more information to aid in
making a decision.
Danielle Surdin informed the Committee that she has information from commercial brokers and
property owners. Since starting work for the Town she has conducted a vacancy rate survey.
She has been working on larger office recruitments since the highest vacancy rates are in the
office zones. Comments from commercial brokers and property owners include a concern about
the planning process. Its difficult during lease negotiations when it isn’t known if the use will
be permitted.. Outside the Downtown there was some positive feedback about contact with
staff. High foot traffic and makes the Downtown very attractive. Owners of Los Gatos
Boulevard (older) office buildings are having some difficulty leasing space and are now working
with a broker. Some form of streamlining and expansion of formula retail has been requested in
the Downtown.
Steve Glickman asked if there are any suggestions or recommendations for the Committee. Ms.
Surdin said expanding formula retail to allow smaller regional chains that have four to six stores.
Encouraging property owners to upgrade properties and buildings through streamlining or
otherwise making it easier for them to gain approvals.
Steve Glickman said the perception of some people is not reality. He asked if these perceptions
are accurate. Mr. Lortz said historically, yes, but recently, no. There are a number of examples
where the process has been changed and applications approved quickly. The ability for the
DRC, through a public hearing process, to approve more commercial applications (through the
new Commercial Design Guidelines) is a great example.
Danielle Surdin said providing success stories to brokers is helpful. Applicants who have a
good experience will tell others about it, and brokers will also pass on positive feedback.
In response to a question from Mike Burke, Ms. Surdin said some property owners are not able to
get the tenant they really want. Small regional chains have business experience, financial
security and capital. Randy Tsuda commented that when leasing a space, property owners are
looking for tenants with a track record and credit history. Bud Lortz said the primary concern is
whether the use is appropriate for the Town. Maintaining the right mix in the Downtown is
important.
Barry Waitte noted that there seems to be two issues: products or services being offered to the
community versus being overrun by large national chains.
Bud Lortz said the question will be, in approving smaller chains, are we negatively impacting
business in the Downtown.
Jane Ogle asked how many businesses are “mom and pop” in the Downtown. Ms. Surdin said
she is in the process of gathering that information. She will also be compiling information on
businesses that have more than one location, and how many they have.
Diane McNutt would like to refer to them as sole location businesses instead of mom and pop.
There are small businesses that will be successful. Having high turnover is more of a problem.
She asked if there are any technological or other obstacles that is keeping the office space from
being leased. Ms. Surdin answered that compared to other cities, Los Gatos is doing very well.
There is a full service feel in a small town. Provision of utilities is a small concern. Diane
McNutt said going out to other communities to look for successful stores is a good approach.
Mike Burke asked if based on current information, the current policy on formula stores is
preventing the Town from getting some businesses. Ms. Surdin said that is true, but it is also the
perception that the process is harder than most, only in the Downtown. Mike Burke said the
Committee may want to take action sooner versus later as it show the Town can act quickly.
Mark Sgarlato asked for Committee comments on raising the limit on number of stores for
regional chains. Barry Waitte agreed on this approach. Steve Glickman would like to hear
others perceptions on what the threshold is, and what the public’s comfort level is.
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Jane Ogle asked if there is a natural break in the number of stores people own. Ms. Surdin said
that businesses start as one store and don’t typically expand to more than four or five unless they
go to franchises. Starbuck’s is one of the exceptions to this.
Diane McNutt said she is looking for five or six.
Barry Waitte said if we’re looking for a number, he would say three to four. It can always be
raised later, but its hard to lower if set too high.
Tom O’Donnell said you need to understand the market. There is no logical number, but he is
ok with four or five. Don’t think we should make people jump through hoops when they have
only a few stores. We need to figure out why certain types of stores don’t want to locate here.
Jane Ogle commented that if there is a five percent vacancy rate, the problem isn’t if the space
will be filled, but what type of tenant it will be. Ms. Surdin said that businesses that may be a
good fit are sometimes bypassed because the space is leased to another tenant that doesn’t need a
use permit.
Discussion continued on number of businesses to allow under the regional chain threshold.
Bud Lortz said he hears an interest in raising the bar. Staff will return to the Committee with
some options. It sounds like we also need some outreach. We will do what we can through the
planning process to expedite applications and will work with Danielle to help educate brokers.
Committee consensus is to move forward with something for the Council’s consideration.
Danielle Surdin asked the Committee to look at whether increasing the number will bring in
more desirable businesses. When it comes down to considering more than one prospective
tenant, it may be enough to tip the scale in favor of the more desirable business.
ITEM 2 HILLSIDE REMODELS
Bud Lortz introduced the item explaining that we have found what appears to be a glitch.
Homeowners wanting to remodel sometimes end up with a technical demolition. Problems arise
when the house is already larger than 6,000 square feet. The question is whether this makes
sense or not. Staff is considering adopting an administrative policy or Council policy allowing
such a project to be approved through a DRC process. Requiring someone to go through a
Planning Commission process for a modest change. Randy Tsuda further explained the hillside
standards and how it is applied.
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Mike Burke asked if the definition of technical demolition could be changed for hillside homes.
Steve Glickman commented on the two options. Modifying the HDS&G is the better option
since it relates to the document and it doesn’t allow “anything goes”just because it there is no
expansion. Bud Lortz said an applicant would still be required to comply with the HDS&G.
He suggested developing an (interim) administrative process for approval by the Committee.
This would help the people currently stuck in the process while staff works on an amendment to
the HDS&G to address the issue..
Staff will return with an administrative policy and will follow-up with an amendment to the
HDS&G.
ITEM 3 ELECTION OF CHAIR & VICE-CHAIR
Mike Burke nominated Mark Sgarlato as chair, noting that it would be helpful to have a public
representative presenting the Committees’. The motion was seconded by Diane McNutt and
passed unanimously.
Diane McNutt nominated Jane Ogle as Vice-Chair. She really likes the idea of a public
representative serving, noting that Council and Planning Commissioners change each year, and
the public reps serve multi-year terms. The motion was seconded by Mark Sgarlato and passed
unanimously.
ITEM 4 APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Mike Burke made a motion to approve the minutes of March 9, 2005. The motion was seconded
by Tom O’Donnell and passed unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 6:35 pm by Mark Sgarlato. The next meeting of the General Plan
Committee is scheduled for Wednesday, May 11, 2005 at 5:30 pm.
Prepared By:
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Suzanne Davis, Associate Planner
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