Attachment 17Sean Rikaiin
From: Clerk
Seat: Thursday, December 07, 2017 9:35 AM
To: Sean Mullin; Joel Paulson; Sally Zarnowitz
Cc: Cindie Gonzales; Jessica Atilano; Dorrie Romero
Subject: FW: New request received
Attachments: ATT00001.bin
Public comment received through the online public records request portal regarding the fencing ordinance.
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From: Clerk Administrator[mailto:do_not_reply@civicplus.comj
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 8:59 AM
To: Clerk
Subject: New request received
Category Clerk Department has received a new request.
Here is what we have on file:
Public Records Request #1861
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Category. Clerk Department Kim Hailey
Priority: 1 15769 Shady Lane
Assigned To: Clerk Town Los Gatos, CA 95032
Submitted: 12/7/2017 8:58 AM CONTACT
Source: Website 73.162.13.133 kitnhg.santolina.com
408 499 8884
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REQUEST' ➢DfE'a'A➢LS
Description
I am concerned about the hillside fence proposal. We live on 20 acres and
host 10-20 deer. Our fence along Shady Lane helps keep the deer out of
the roadway. Most of the deer that die are the result of being hit. I see deer
along Short Road and even Blossom Hill Road. The fences actually protect
the deer and impede their interaction with civilization. I do not think the
proposed fence ordinance will have the desired outcome. Thanks, Kim
Hailey
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ATTACHMENT 17
From: Wallis and Wallis Insurance Brokers <dwallisjr@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 11:44 AM
To: Jocelyn Shoopman <jshoopman@losgatosca.gov>
Subject: I need help
Hi Jocelyn,
I want to send you a email in support of the proposed approval of the 7 foot high fences, should I referred
to a specific vote???
Thanks!!
Marcia
Partner & Broker
Wallis and Wallis Insurance Brokers
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Sean Mullin
From: David Klinger <dave.klinger@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2018 9:59 PM
To: Sean Mullin
Subject: Support for Non -Hillside Fence Ordinance 29.40.033
10/7/2018
Los Gatos Town Council Members,
The Town Council will be considering on October 16, 2018 changes to the Ordinance governing both Non -hillside
residential lots and Hillside residential Tots fences. This letter urges your support of the non -hillside fence height change
29.40.033, even if the Council decides not to change the Hill -side fence ordinance 29.40.034
On Sep 13, 2017, I presented to the Planning Commission the case for allowing seven foot high fences (six feet solid with
one foot lattice on top) for non -hillside residential lots. Following an in-depth discussion, the minutes show that the
Planning Commission supported the change to seven foot height including one foot lattice within property lines, with lower
heights for corner lots and front yards.
I presented the same case for change to the Town Council on Dec 5, 2017. However the public testimony was almost
entirely on the hillside fencing and occurred late in the evening after the Veterans Memorial was discussed and
approved. Although I provided both written and verbal testimony on the non -hillside changes, the council did not discuss
the non -hillside fence height proposed changes and deferred both hillside and non -hillside fence consideration to a later
date, now October 16, 2018.
I urge you to approve the Ordinance Sec. 29.40.033. Non -hillside residential lots: Fences, walls, gates, gateways, entry
arbors, and hedges.
(a) Height. In residential zones outside of the hillside area, a permit is not required for the repair, replacement, or
construction of gateways, entry arbors, or hedges that are no more than six (6) feet high; or fences, walls, or gates that
are no more than six (6) feet high, with one (1) foot of lattice on top (seven (7) feet high in total), and within all property
lines.
(b) Exceptions to height
(c) Materials
(d) Vehicular gates
My original letter to the Town Council, presenting the case that was included in the formal package for the Council meeting on
Dec 5, 2017, is included below for your reference. To summarize, the primary reasons for change are the following:
1) The existing six foot height limit is widely ignored
2) Allowing residents to build seven foot fences with one foot lattice, (the de facto city standard), will eliminate widespread
non-compliance to the code.
3) Many fences are higher than six feet, but are acceptable to the neighbors, based on nearly zero complaints to Code
Compliance
4) No effective enforcement of the exiting six foot limit is taking place.
5) Los Gatos does not track applications for height waiver, but the number of applications is "minimal" according to a planning
staff member.
5) Charging a $233 fee for a waiver is not uniformly applied, is burdensome, and is unfair to those who wish to be compliant,
since very few residents apply for a waiver
6) The existing height exemption criteria of "special privacy concerns" is subjective and difficult to properly evaluate.
7) San Jose, Sunnyvale, Cupertino, Santa Clara County, and Los Altos allow such seven foot fences without exemptions or
permits.
Again, I urge you to consider non -hillside lots and hillside lot ordinance changes separately, and to accept the seven foot
height with lattice for non -hillside residential lots.
Respectfully,
David L. Klinger
141 Potomac Dr
Los Gatos, CA 95032
Reference: 8/30/2017 Initial letter to Los Gatos Town Council
I am a resident Los Gatos. The Planning Commission is currently considering changes to the Los Gatos fence
code for hillside properties to protect wildlife. I request the Council direct the Commission to expand the scope
of these changes to include reconsideration of the flatland residential fence height restrictions.
I recently received approval by the Community Development Director to construct a replacement 7 foot high
fence that includes a 1 ft lattice on top. I paid Los Gatos $233 to process the exemption required by city code,
after gaining approval of all my adjacent neighbors. A building permit was not required since the fence was not
over 7 feet high.
I discovered by walking our dogs around extensively and talking with my fence contractor that 7 foot fence
replacements are quite common. I met with Sean Mullin, of the Los Gatos planning staff to seek information
about how many residents seek the formal exemption and pay the fee. I was advised by another planning staff
member at that meeting that the number is "minimal", and that the city was unable to provide me the exact
exemption application count since there is no tracking system in place. One can only conclude that many
residents simply ignore the code and replace fences without seeking a formal exemption for those fences higher
than 6 feet. Further, I talked with LG Code Compliance and was told that fence height compliance is not an
issue, perhaps one or two calls per year, due to neighbors working it out themselves. Compliance actions do
not take place unless there is a complaint..
San Jose, Sunnyvale, Cupertino, Santa Clara County, and Los Altos allow 7 foot fences with 1 foot lattice
without exemptions or permits, some of these cities requiring adjoining neighbor approval.
Neighbor approval and "Special privacy concerns", without specific criteria, is the current Los Gatos basis for
allowing fences over 6 feet high. Privacy is a subjective matter best left to the neighbors directly affected.
Determination of whether or not a special privacy concern exists is at the discretion of the Community
Development Director per current code.
Proposal: The flatland ordinance should be modified to allow 7 foot heights with 1 foot lattice without an
exemption fee if all affected neighbors approve. The code should continue the 6 foot no -approval baseline. If a
neighbor disapproves a fence higher than 6 feet, the resident desiring the increase could appeal, starting with
the Community Development Director. Fences higher than 7 feet should continue to require a permit due to
ensure safety. Front yard and corner lot low fence limitations should remain in force, again for safety and
visibility reasons.
I believe this change would reconcile the fence height ordinance to the apparent current LG community
consensus that 7 foot fences are often desired and are acceptable. Making this change would promote better
respect for and compliance with Los Gatos codes, and immediately reprieve many residents who are not
currently code -compliant. However, this issue is not likely to result in demonstrations and demand for changes
at future Council meetings. Rather, this issue falls more properly into the category of good city governance and
respect for the ability of residents to work it out themselves.
In summary,
1) The fence height code is being ignored widely,
2) Many fences are higher than six feet, but are acceptable to the neighbors,
3) The current height exemption criteria of "special privacy concerns" is subjective and difficult to properly
evaluate,
4) When neighbors already agree on a 7 foot high fence, gaining city approval and paying associated fees
unnecessarily burdens the residents.
Respectfully,
David L. Klinger
141 Potomac Dr
Los Gatos, CA 95032
RECEIVED
To: Town Council
Re: Revised Fence Ordinance, meeting of TC October 16, 2018
From Peter Donnelly, Dave Weissman, October 9, 2018
OCT 0 92018
TOWN OF LOS GATOS
PLANNING DIVISION
After a considerable amount of time working with staff and the various interests within the
Town, we now support the draft before you as a compromise that achieves the main interests
and goals of the HDS&G.
There is one short sentence that we recommend you add to this draft to make the code clearer
and as unambiguous as possible: Where a conflict exists between the CC&Rs of a hillside PD
and this document, the requirements of this document shall prevail.
Our concern is not about some unrealistic, hypothetical situation because such a potential
conflict may be illustrated by the following example. The Town approved CC&Rs of the
Highlands PD say, in Section 6.11.2, that "Generally, fences should be constructed in such a
fashion to be open that will allow the migration of native animals through the project." Those
CC&Rs continue that "Open fencing as suggested by the Hillside Development Standards and
Guidelines and as appended herein as Exhibit D is encouraged." Yet in Exhibit D-2 of that very
same Highlands document, a "permitted" fence (see attached) shows a fence that is clearly not
wildlife -friendly because of the obvious wire mesh.
Additionally, the Highlands CC&R "Fence and Wall" section anticipates that Town codes can
subsequently change and says that homeowners are "...subject to applicable governmental
regulations and requirements of governmental agencies, and ...as may be amended from time
to time..." (our emphasis).
Incorporating the above proposed sentence into the Town's fence ordinance insures that
Homeowner's Associations will continue to advise their members and update their internal
CC&Rs since, at least in the case of the Highlands, any proposed fence or wall construction must
be approved by the Highlands' internal governing board. We also believe the addition of the
above highlighted wording would remove any ambiguity and prevent any unintended loopholes
that result in fencing that does not comply with the intended outcome of the HDS&G.
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